Members billybilly Posted January 23, 2015 Members Share Posted January 23, 2015 This time it''s about consistency between pickup brands and their wiring colors. Can we make them the same? Can hot and ground be all the same color and not out of phase? Is that too much to ask? It's like buying a car battery and having red suddenly negative. It's stupid. The end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Juicy Elk Man Posted January 23, 2015 Members Share Posted January 23, 2015 Single coils aren't so bad - if it has the weird out of phase sound when combined with other pickups, just swap the wires. Humbuckers, with their multiple tendrils of wires, can be a pain if you're not a walking encyclopedia of the various brands and their corresponding color codes. Homogenization is something that should happen - there has to be an industry standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members billybilly Posted January 23, 2015 Author Members Share Posted January 23, 2015 Single coils aren't so bad - if it has the weird out of phase sound when combined with other pickups, just swap the wires. Humbuckers, with their multiple tendrils of wires, can be a pain if you're not a walking encyclopedia of the various brands and their corresponding color codes. Homogenization is something that should happen - there has to be an industry standard. Well, one would hope there will someday be an industry standard but I'm not holding my breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Grant Harding Posted January 23, 2015 Members Share Posted January 23, 2015 I'd sign a petition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Virgman Posted January 23, 2015 Members Share Posted January 23, 2015 This time it''s about consistency between pickup brands and their wiring colors. Can we make them the same? Can hot and ground be all the same color and not out of phase? Is that too much to ask? It's like buying a car battery and having red suddenly negative. It's stupid. The end. If you buy a quality guitar in the first place you wouldn't need to change the pickups. Next time buy a quality guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members badpenguin Posted January 23, 2015 Members Share Posted January 23, 2015 Oh my.... a post that ACTUALLY has to do with guitars! Les Paul be praised!! I agree that the wiring codes should be standardized, but I doubt it's going to happen. Some guru pickup winder will put out a media blitz that their picks are better, because of their orange hot wire, is slightly hotter than Duncan's black wire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members billybilly Posted January 23, 2015 Author Members Share Posted January 23, 2015 Where's the fun in that? Even though I'm taking your post as somewhat facetious Virgman, my taste for sound changes hence the great fun in trying new pickups as opposed to buying a new guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hellion_213 Posted January 23, 2015 Members Share Posted January 23, 2015 They all have a diagram, so it's not that bad. Now standardizing quick connects on all pickups is where it's at! THAT would be awesome! Want to swap one out, no big deal, go for it, just unplug/plug in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members billybilly Posted January 23, 2015 Author Members Share Posted January 23, 2015 Good point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members badpenguin Posted January 23, 2015 Members Share Posted January 23, 2015 Not for me hellion. I like doing weird little wiring tricks, and the plugs, just get in the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Virgman Posted January 23, 2015 Members Share Posted January 23, 2015 "Facetious" means joking at an inopportune time but I think my joke is quite opportune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members billybilly Posted January 23, 2015 Author Members Share Posted January 23, 2015 I didn't find your comment funny, therefore to me, it was facetious... Humour being subjective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hellion_213 Posted January 23, 2015 Members Share Posted January 23, 2015 But see, if they were standardized, a simple 'snip' and they're out of your way, allowing you to proceed with your soldered tinkerings, while the rest of us can 'plug and play' with pickup swaps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members knotty Posted January 24, 2015 Members Share Posted January 24, 2015 Oh my.... a post that ACTUALLY has to do with guitars! Les Paul be praised!! I agree that the wiring codes should be standardized, but I doubt it's going to happen. Some guru pickup winder will put out a media blitz that their picks are better, because of their orange hot wire, is slightly hotter than Duncan's black wire. Orange caps give the best tone so it only makes sense that insulation colour affects tone. Fact! Scientific! I feel a thread coming on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pine Apple Slim Posted January 24, 2015 Members Share Posted January 24, 2015 I have this old Tele bridge pickup (Came out of a MF Rogue) I'm putting in a cigar box. Can I be pretty certain the white is hot and red is ground? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Grant Harding Posted January 24, 2015 Members Share Posted January 24, 2015 How about a standard plug for all? That's the ideal isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wankdeplank Posted January 24, 2015 Members Share Posted January 24, 2015 This time it''s about consistency between pickup brands and their wiring colors. Can we make them the same? Can hot and ground be all the same color and not out of phase? Is that too much to ask? It's like buying a car battery and having red suddenly negative. It's stupid. The end. Why stop there? I wish there was some standardization regarding string spacing at the nut and at the bridge. There's the vintage trem spacing (2 & 7/32nd) as opposed to standard 2 & 1/8th. And anybody who can go from a Gibson with broad string spacing at the nut to an original Duo Sonic or an original cheapy Squier without missing a beat has got my respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Caffeinated Cat Posted January 24, 2015 Members Share Posted January 24, 2015 It really is an unnecessary pain in the butt. I put some Seymour Duncan '59s in my Ibanez and although SD has a variety of wiring diagrams on their site, they didn't have one for my particular setup (two humbuckers, regular 5 way switch, one volume and one tone control). So I had to use a DiMarzio wiring diagram and a color code conversion chart. Good grief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Danhedonia Posted January 28, 2015 Members Share Posted January 28, 2015 Why stop there? I wish there was some standardization regarding string spacing at the nut and at the bridge. There's the vintage trem spacing (2 & 7/32nd) as opposed to standard 2 & 1/8th. And anybody who can go from a Gibson with broad string spacing at the nut to an original Duo Sonic or an original cheapy Squier without missing a beat has got my respect. Be serious. I have a hard time going from a Squier VM Jazzmaster to my 70's Matsumoku Ibby Tele - which is TINY. Why is standardization so out of the question for such a large industry? It would have a lot of benefits for all involved .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted January 28, 2015 Moderators Share Posted January 28, 2015 Orange caps give the best tone. No they don't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted January 28, 2015 Moderators Share Posted January 28, 2015 I have this old Tele bridge pickup (Came out of a MF Rogue) I'm putting in a cigar box. Can I be pretty certain the white is hot and red is ground? Not really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members knotty Posted January 28, 2015 Members Share Posted January 28, 2015 No they don't Oh yes they do! look behind you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members billybilly Posted January 28, 2015 Author Members Share Posted January 28, 2015 I don't know why but the above really made me laugh, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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