Members jfpenkala Posted January 17, 2015 Members Share Posted January 17, 2015 Out of curiosity I am wondering where the heelless neck joint came from? I know the Les Paul Axcess has one as well as a few others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soundcreation Posted January 17, 2015 Members Share Posted January 17, 2015 That's an Aria PE and I suppose they might have been the first. Probably the first big manufacturer to do it. Interesting it took gibson 30+ years to try that idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jtr654 Posted January 17, 2015 Members Share Posted January 17, 2015 Gibson on their 1st LP/SG's and Firebirds in 1963. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jtr654 Posted January 17, 2015 Members Share Posted January 17, 2015 On more Modern guitars BC Rich on all their neck thru 's, Jacksons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soundcreation Posted January 18, 2015 Members Share Posted January 18, 2015 Gibson on their 1st LP/SG's and Firebirds in 1963. not the same....SG's have a heel it's just smaller and the firebirds are neck through. Neck through guitars never had a heel to begin with. I think the OP means set necks only and contouring that to be heel less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members V-8 Posted January 18, 2015 Members Share Posted January 18, 2015 Neck through guitars never had a heel to begin with. I guess that would be one good poke in the eye against the neck-thru hater crowd. Still, I'm a little leery of set neck guitars with no heel. I'll take a bit of a smoothed sturdy heel and a stable neck any day over a bendy neck thing without a heel that will probably need a neck reset in 10 to 20 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jtr654 Posted January 18, 2015 Members Share Posted January 18, 2015 Then the 1st Firebirds were the 1st healless guitars. B.C. Rich guitars came out in the 70's and all the models were healless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members V-8 Posted January 18, 2015 Members Share Posted January 18, 2015 Behold... The infamous PRS "Heel From Hell" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soundcreation Posted January 18, 2015 Members Share Posted January 18, 2015 I guess that would be one good poke in the eye against the neck-thru hater crowd. Still, I'm a little leery of set neck guitars with no heel. I'll take a bit of a smoothed sturdy heel and a stable neck any day over a bendy neck thing without a heel that will probably need a neck reset in 10 to 20 years. Well...those Aria PE's have been around for nearly 40 years and I've never heard of them having neck problems. Personally I don't think things like that are as fragile as people make them out to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MorganB Posted January 18, 2015 Members Share Posted January 18, 2015 "BC Rich also pioneered the heel-less joint."From Wikipedia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1001gear Posted January 18, 2015 Members Share Posted January 18, 2015 Out of curiosity I am wondering where the heelless neck joint came from? I know the Les Paul Axcess has one as well as a few others. I wonder if the lower horn might not be a bigger obstacle to upper fret access. (?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members onelife Posted January 20, 2015 Members Share Posted January 20, 2015 The first one I played with any regularity was an Ibanez Artist Custom in the mid 70s. Fantastic guitar. It was the time I realized that Japanese guitars were finally as good or better than American guitars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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