Members chimi Posted October 24, 2014 Members Share Posted October 24, 2014 So this morning i see a Fender Strat pop up on my local craigslist. The picture of the headstock shows made in US... I texted the guy and he was nice enough to hold it for me all day until i got out of work. He mentioned he got about 10 calls about it, which i believe. Apparently his wife bought it for their son a few years ago who gave up playing. The guy knew exactly what he had, it's not like he didn't know anything about guitars. But the price was amazing. Even less than a MIM Fender goes for these days on craigslist. From what i could find online it's an early 90s one. I know absolutely nothing about Fenders so if anyone knows anything i would appreciate any information. Anyways, it has a few tiny imperfections, what guitar this age doesn't? I plugged it in and WOW what a gorgeous sound. I have never had a real strat, i've liked the looks and i've always loved the necks on fenders and even most squiers but have usually had humbucker equipped guitars. I've had ones with coil taps but they were not the same. The cleans on this thing are just amazing. The neck is super comfy and smooth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Floyd Rosenbomb Posted October 24, 2014 Members Share Posted October 24, 2014 It's got the 70's headstock and a Vintage style trem.The only guitars that I know that have that are the Fender American Special Stratocasters.However, I don't remember these coming in black. The Fender American Special Stratocaster was a line that came out a couple years ago...so. Also, yours has the older style string trees.Be interested to find out what it is myself.Are you for sure it was a 90's model? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dr. Scottie C Posted October 24, 2014 Members Share Posted October 24, 2014 Totally fake. 1993 Serial Numbers were on the front of the headstock.....that alone tells the story without looking any further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chimi Posted October 24, 2014 Author Members Share Posted October 24, 2014 Scottie, you're right i did just see a neck from supposedly a similar model on ebay with the serial number on the front. So completely fake then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members billybilly Posted October 24, 2014 Members Share Posted October 24, 2014 I don't recall those head-stocks or serial numbers written like that or trem like that so I don't' think its an american strat. However, it does play and sound good and you got it cheap so who cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dr. Scottie C Posted October 24, 2014 Members Share Posted October 24, 2014 Yeah, I am afraid so..... the bridge is wrong too..... but if it plays good, sounds good, and bought cheap..... then it's all good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chimi Posted October 24, 2014 Author Members Share Posted October 24, 2014 Thanks Scottie. Shame to think it;s possibly a fake. Whatever it is it still plays and sounds great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dr. Scottie C Posted October 24, 2014 Members Share Posted October 24, 2014 There is not just a possibility its fake. It couldn't be any more fake strat if it was shaped like a Les Paul.... but a good playing cheap guitar.... doesn't matter who made it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Floyd Rosenbomb Posted October 24, 2014 Members Share Posted October 24, 2014 It has small dots, too.Go down about 5 pics in this thread, looks like the same guitar but in a burst.http://forums.fender.com/viewtopic.php?t=35431 Squier maybe $250 new IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaleH Posted October 24, 2014 Members Share Posted October 24, 2014 I would pull the neck and guard to see what I could find. Looks like a rosewood plug in the truss rod hole. Perhaps warmoth. Squier has plastic and most cheapies just have a hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mistersully Posted October 24, 2014 Members Share Posted October 24, 2014 don't let him get away with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chimi Posted October 24, 2014 Author Members Share Posted October 24, 2014 Thanks for the info guys. Still a good deal either way. And the guitar does play well and sound great. I guess i'm just a bit bummed it's not the real thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WRGKMC Posted October 24, 2014 Members Share Posted October 24, 2014 String tree type and placement are wrong. The E&B string tree is supposed to be placed further from the nut between the D & A tuning pegs on all fenders. The G&D string tree gets placed even with the A tuner, If it had one which the 1993 American Strat doesn't. The tree for the E&B is low also. Its likely someone bought a counterfeit neck, and stuck it on a cheaper body, then put the string trees on themselves and didn't know where they were supposed to be placed. This doesn't mean its a bad guitar. The quality may be very good, but you shouldn't get soaked for it being anything other then it is, a forged build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members billybilly Posted October 24, 2014 Members Share Posted October 24, 2014 don't let him get away with it I agree, I'd have a conversation with the seller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chimi Posted October 24, 2014 Author Members Share Posted October 24, 2014 I don't think a conversation with the seller will change much. I like the guitar enough to keep it for a while (though i rotate my gear pretty frequently). When i do get rid of it i will make sure the person buying it knows what they are getting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted October 24, 2014 Moderators Share Posted October 24, 2014 Go with Dale's advice, as that rosewood plug makes that either a Fender neck or a Warmoth neck, there is one other possibility but I doubt it. Pull the neck and look for Warmoths bigass branding on the heel, then it'd be good to see a pic of the neck pocket too, and finally as Dale says, pull the guard and see what's you fin don the pickguard and under it. If it's all good on the guard and the body is proper fairy blessed tonewood, then you have a good guitar, albeit not what it's trying to look like I'm betting you find a set of CS69s in there. Also is it a 3 or 4 bolt neck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Floyd Rosenbomb Posted October 24, 2014 Members Share Posted October 24, 2014 I would pull the neck and guard to see what I could find. Looks like a rosewood plug in the truss rod hole. Perhaps warmoth. Squier has plastic and most cheapies just have a hole. Yeah, I was thinking it was a Squire neck as they do make large headstock model that has 22 frets. But you are saying plastic truss hole only the Squires. ...a Warmoth neck would be cool, and it does look like a nice piece of wood from the pics. If you do get some more pics, I'd like to see one of the backside of the trem to see what the block looks like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wankdeplank Posted October 24, 2014 Members Share Posted October 24, 2014 I don't think a conversation with the seller will change much. I like the guitar enough to keep it for a while (though i rotate my gear pretty frequently). When i do get rid of it i will make sure the person buying it knows what they are getting. You're a class act Chimi. If it plays good and sounds good, it is good. Your opinion is the only one that matters. Still, I'd probably let the seller know he's a lowlife douche for misrepresenting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Floyd Rosenbomb Posted October 24, 2014 Members Share Posted October 24, 2014 Looks like it has Squier saddles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chimi Posted October 24, 2014 Author Members Share Posted October 24, 2014 Here's a few pictures i took this morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Floyd Rosenbomb Posted October 24, 2014 Members Share Posted October 24, 2014 Yeah, that looks like a Squire Affinity with some red marker around the truss rod cover.I'd contact the seller, send him a link to this thread, and ask for my money back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WRGKMC Posted October 24, 2014 Members Share Posted October 24, 2014 Its gets harder and harder to tell what's real or not, especially with Fender stuff. Check out this Counterfeit. http://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-Arrival-black-Stratocaster-made-in-usa-6-string-Electric-Guitar-Free-shipping/545184918.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members papaschtroumpf Posted October 24, 2014 Members Share Posted October 24, 2014 The seller in that link doesn't claim it's a Fender at least. They let the purchaser see what they want to see in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Into Nation Posted October 24, 2014 Members Share Posted October 24, 2014 Yeah, that is a Squire Affinity with some red marker around the truss rod cover. I'd contact the seller, send him a link to this thread, and ask for my money back. Too many frets for an Affinity. Might be a Squier Standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Floyd Rosenbomb Posted October 24, 2014 Members Share Posted October 24, 2014 Too many frets for an Affinity. Might be a Squier Standard. Not true, there are Affinitys with 22 frets. Getting pretty clear it's one of these from al, though, vhYTi9okwdM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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