Members mbengs1 Posted July 21, 2014 Members Share Posted July 21, 2014 Was it steve vai? I think it was the luthiers of Ibanez and not steve vai. he just adopted it into his own signature guitars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bucksstudent Posted July 21, 2014 Members Share Posted July 21, 2014 I'm no Vai expert, but I think the handle comes from him wanting something to safely swing his guitar around him without it breaking off the strap and flying in the air. It's one of the same reasons he keeps fans onstage and listed them as his gear in Guitar World's Rig Rundown. They're just gimmicks. As far as the RG style, isn't that just a take on a Strat style body? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sammyreynolds01 Posted July 21, 2014 Members Share Posted July 21, 2014 The current RG is based off the body of the Jem minus the handle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Floyd Rosenbomb Posted July 21, 2014 Members Share Posted July 21, 2014 Steve was really involved in designing them, http://www.vai.com/ibanez-guitars and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibanez_...and_production as for who drew out the RG body style... I don't know. It certainly grew out of Ibanez Roadstar body shape, and to some degree the Ibanez Maxxas. Who ever did it made a body that has great egros. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bucksstudent Posted July 21, 2014 Members Share Posted July 21, 2014 The current RG is based off the body of the Jem minus the handle. I think Leo Fender might have something to say about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Floyd Rosenbomb Posted July 21, 2014 Members Share Posted July 21, 2014 I think Leo Fender might have something to say about that. Without question that was the initial influence. The RG is an evolution of the Stratocaster. Same for the Jackson Dk and Soloist. My take is that the RG/Jem is the most modern cutting edge version of the Stratocaster. This comes down to components and construction details. Things like neck radius and widths, tremolo systems and body ergos. Bill Carson, Freddie Tavares, and Leo can all take credit for the original design, which was intended as an improvement on the Tele... some 60 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Floyd Rosenbomb Posted July 22, 2014 Members Share Posted July 22, 2014 The best answer we are likely to see,http://www.jemsite.com/articles-menu...ns-of-the-jem/ Photos of the guitars mentioned in the write up,http://www.taringa.net/posts/imagenes/11616533/Steve-Vai-Megapost.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sammyreynolds01 Posted July 22, 2014 Members Share Posted July 22, 2014 I think Leo Fender might have something to say about that. I wish Fender made a strat like that. We all know the Jem/RG and every other superstrat was influenced by the Fender Strat. Ibanez's model is leaner and a lot more meaner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Floyd Rosenbomb Posted July 23, 2014 Members Share Posted July 23, 2014 I wish Fender made a strat like that. We all know the Jem/RG and every other superstrat was influenced by the Fender Strat. Ibanez's model is leaner and a lot more meaner. Mo' meaner. I like that. ;^) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soundcreation Posted July 23, 2014 Members Share Posted July 23, 2014 The handle cut into the body thing is pre ibanez. He has that in that custom green guitar he designed in the Yankee Rose video. So he definitely is the creator of that feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MesaMonster Posted July 24, 2014 Members Share Posted July 24, 2014 The RG body style has been around for years. I bought my RG570 before the JEM guitars ever came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Floyd Rosenbomb Posted July 24, 2014 Members Share Posted July 24, 2014 The RG body style has been around for years. I bought my RG570 before the JEM guitars ever came out. Impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Radar-Love Posted July 24, 2014 Members Share Posted July 24, 2014 I'm no Vai expert' date=' but I think the handle comes from him wanting something to safely swing his guitar around him...[/quote'] I'm thinking that Vai (Ibanez) appropriated a previously existing feature, because I believe I saw the so-called "monkey grip" handle before the Jem existed. It was a particular Lindert guitar model that had a handle cutout in the upper bout of the body, in the same place the Jem's monkey grip handle is. The outline of the handle cutout on the Lindert was very similar to the outline of Lindert's hand+thumb headstock -- but upside down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bucksstudent Posted July 25, 2014 Members Share Posted July 25, 2014 I'm thinking that Vai (Ibanez) appropriated a previously existing feature, because I believe I saw the so-called "monkey grip" handle before the Jem existed. It was a particular Lindert guitar model that had a handle cutout in the upper bout of the body, in the same place the Jem's monkey grip handle is. The outline of the handle cutout on the Lindert was very similar to the outline of Lindert's hand+thumb headstock -- but upside down. Would any player want to grab a guitar by the headstock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sammyreynolds01 Posted July 25, 2014 Members Share Posted July 25, 2014 The RG body style has been around for years. I bought my RG570 before the JEM guitars ever came out. The current body style RG and the JEM both came out in 87 from what I could find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BowerR65 Posted July 25, 2014 Members Share Posted July 25, 2014 All i remember was him adding the grip and the ugly inlay, yes i think the inlay on the jem is ugly. I didnt mind the original inlay on the green one. The handle isnt bad if you want to spend $2k on a guitar and need to carry it around without a case :/ 'If i spent that much on a guitar it would be in the same vault as all my guns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BowerR65 Posted August 21, 2014 Members Share Posted August 21, 2014 I remember as a kid we went bowling on wednsdays for gym class, it was really fun we would ride a bus to the alley and for the hour of gym class we would launch balls down the alley trying to get in as many games in an hour as we could. my point? I remember launching 9 pounders down the alley using just 2 fingers putting major spin on the ball. We were never good at making strikes but it was fun to ride the gutter and watch it hook at the last second as the lightweight ball just bounced off all the pins. my point? Why not make a guitar with 2 finger holes!?!? when you insert your fingers into the 2 finger grip your forced to do the rocker hand gesture LOL! Insted of a monkey you could call it THE ROCKER GRIP! baahaa! Would make for a good gimmick guitar series! I figured steve vai put the grip on his guitar for stage antics anyway what would be cooler then giving the crowd a rocker gesture while hitting a harmonic and shreading everyones ears at the same time? He has that one guitar with the sustainer built into it he could run around the stage with the feedback screeching the whole time lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BowerR65 Posted August 21, 2014 Members Share Posted August 21, 2014 This is a cheap ibanez GIO i found on craigslist for $30. i cut a grip in it for fun and repainted it with truck bed liner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BG76 Posted August 21, 2014 Members Share Posted August 21, 2014 I wish Fender made a strat like that. We all know the Jem/RG and every other superstrat was influenced by the Fender Strat. Ibanez's model is leaner and a lot more meaner. Well, they do make the Soloist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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