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  • #31
    Originally posted by 6down1togo View Post
    Hands down winner ... Michael Kelly Patriot Classic. Just a fabulous rendition f a modernized Les Paul Custom. Ebony Fretboard, silky smooth frets, Rockfield SWC pickups with push pull coil taps, Tone Pros bridge and tailpiece and Graphtech nut. It is a flawlessly-finished, Korean-built set neck guitar for around $350 street price.

    ummm... That's actually a Custom.

    ...and you forgot to mention that the pickups are direct-mounted to the body on many of these models, including the Custom.



    Anyway, $350 would be a low USED price for a MK Patriot Custom -- not the typical street price for a new one , which is $699.

    There was an interval of time about 5 years ago when you could find killer deals on new higher-end Patriot MK models (Limiteds, Customs, Premiums, Supremes, etc). Due to the economy and various model changeovers, MK was selling off overstock. You could get a new Custom for as little as $399 to $429 for a few months. Those times passed quickly, as all of those bargains were gobbled up by the knowing.

    The MIK Michael Kelly models are made at the same factory -- World Musical Instruments Ltd. -- where the PRS SE models are made, as well as the higher-end models from Dean and ESP/LTD. If you pickup one these MKs in person, the quality and attention to detail is obvious. The quality of the woods used is top-notch. The fretwork and fingerboard finishing is top-notch. The finish and inlay work is top-notch. All of the hardware is top-notch. The setup and playability is excellent. Pickup a $2000+ Gibson LP and compare.


    http://www.michaelkellyguitars.com/en/


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    • #32
      Originally posted by Radar-Love View Post


      ummm... That's actually a Custom.

      ...and you forgot to mention that the pickups are direct-mounted to the body on many of these models, including the Custom.



      Anyway, $350 would be a low USED price for a MK Patriot Custom -- not the typical street price for a new one , which is $699.
      The only downside of these, or upside - depending... is resale value. I don't know what it is but they really never caught on. The upper bout is a bit preggy, maybe that's it. There is a Dean model that I'm almost positive uses the same core shape. Can't seem to get much selling them.

      http://miami.craigslist.org/brw/msg/4576689768.html

      That's lower end than the Custom, but still. $250
      http://www.harmonycentral.com/t5/Electric-Guitars/I-smeared-bacon-fat-on-my-strat-now-it-stinks/td-p/16697195

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      • #33
        Originally posted by knotty View Post


        Isnt that a bit on the pricey side for one of them?
        It was a good investment. They are going for $50 on eBay nowadays. That's a 150% appreciation!
        Last edited by Virgman; 07-24-2014, 02:12 PM.
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        • #34
          My favorite cheapo is a plywood BC Rich Rave from the 80s. It plays awesome, and sounds great with a GFS Alnico II. The neck is fantastic.

          Last edited by blackmonday; 07-24-2014, 02:40 PM.
          Too little time to play lately.

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          • #35
            That's a great looking guitar, Black Monday.

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            • #36
              Samick SAT-650... $180 with original case.

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              • #37
                Really digging the looks of that Patriot Custom and the BC Rich. Have to admit that I still have a little stigma against plywood, but I have seen examples that sound really good.

                Samick SAT-650... $180 with original case.

                Where? Yours? Looked it up and it does resemble the Robelli that changed my world and perception of just how good a cheap guitar could be. There is no doubt that Samick has the ability to make a world class archtop (hollow or semi) guitar. I've also heard that their more recent Greg Bennett Royale line is also very good and hangs with the real deal. Here's the SAT-650:

                "Prayer is when you talk to God. Meditation is when you're listening. Playing the piano ['guitar'] allows you to do both at the same time." -Kelsey Grammer

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by wankdeplank View Post

                  Vintage Modified huh? Those and the Classic Vibes get a lot of love and rightfully so IMO. I would think some of the best budget models still available today.
                  Classic Vibe 60s Strat here. My unquestioned and unequalled #1, and I paid around $270 for it new-in-box shipped via ebay.

                  After a setup, a Tusq nut, the Deaf Eddie Chromacaster switch and some better capacitors, this is the 2nd best playing/most versatile guitar I've ever owned.

                  It's amazing what one can find with a little luck, a little persistence and a few modifications after purchase.
                  Epi 339-Pro (Cherry) | Epi Dot Dlx: Seth Lover set | Classic Vibe 60s Strat: Deaf Eddie Chromacaster switch | Red MIM Strat: Tonerider City Limits set; Deaf Eddie Fat-O-Caster switch | Ibanez SZ520QM: Dimarzio Bluesbucker & Air Zone | Fender Sonoran acoustic-electric | Fender Mustang III v2: Swamp Thang | Fender Super Champ XD: Ragin' Cajun

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                  • #39
                    Hey gdsmith, good on ya brother. It sounds like you definitely know what you're doing with those mods. I'm a little reluctant to delve into the electronic side too heavily as long as the controls do what they're supposed to. I'm a big fan of the tusq nut mod (use graphite sometimes) which I've done on most of my guits, even US made - I swear it adds to tone (even fretted) and sustain.

                    Truth is that I'd probably own one of those CV's if the neck was just a little meatier. Last time I played one at GC I think it beat out the MIM I compared it to and I definitely dug it's greasy gutbucket tone.
                    "Prayer is when you talk to God. Meditation is when you're listening. Playing the piano ['guitar'] allows you to do both at the same time." -Kelsey Grammer

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                    • #40
                      I had a Robelli Eddy Durham. I wish I'd kept it. SA blew them out at $299. I saw one used recently for $450. Great guitars.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by wankdeplank View Post

                        $20 for used Johnson JS-800 strat-o-clone.

                        It plays and sounds good.


                        Wow Virg, you really do have a Johnson guitar? All this time I thought you were some kind of perv.
                        Incredible as it may sound, I actually have six Johnson guitars.

                        Yes, you read that correctly...six!

                        I am the self-appointed Johnson expert on HC. Please ask any relevant questions you have about these finely crafted instruments.

                        My current inventory:

                        Three Johnson JS-800 strat-o-clones
                        One Johnson JT-800 tele-clone
                        One Johnson Las Vegas Hollowbody
                        One Johnson 3/4 mini strat-o-clone
                        Last edited by Virgman; 07-25-2014, 06:06 AM.
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                        • #42
                          I dont think ive paid more than $400. for a guitar so everything i own is budget but i think the best one i got was a model 1 off e-bay i think for $90. missing stuff

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Radar-Love View Post


                            ummm... That's actually a Custom.

                            ...and you forgot to mention that the pickups are direct-mounted to the body on many of these models, including the Custom.



                            Anyway, $350 would be a low USED price for a MK Patriot Custom -- not the typical street price for a new one , which is $699.

                            There was an interval of time about 5 years ago when you could find killer deals on new higher-end Patriot MK models (Limiteds, Customs, Premiums, Supremes, etc). Due to the economy and various model changeovers, MK was selling off overstock. You could get a new Custom for as little as $399 to $429 for a few months. Those times passed quickly, as all of those bargains were gobbled up by the knowing.

                            The MIK Michael Kelly models are made at the same factory -- World Musical Instruments Ltd. -- where the PRS SE models are made, as well as the higher-end models from Dean and ESP/LTD. If you pickup one these MKs in person, the quality and attention to detail is obvious. The quality of the woods used is top-notch. The fretwork and fingerboard finishing is top-notch. The finish and inlay work is top-notch. All of the hardware is top-notch. The setup and playability is excellent. Pickup a $2000+ Gibson LP and compare.


                            http://www.michaelkellyguitars.com/en/


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                            • #44
                              My bad. Yes, it was a Custom. They sell all over eBay for $499 OBO incl shipping. I got mine new for a $350 offer. Used is around the same or less. The resale is awful on them as nobody seems to know how good they really are. I had one and sold it and could only get $300 for it in same as new condition. Missed it and bought the one pictured. It is even better than the first one.

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                              • Emory
                                Emory commented
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                                My view is that if you really love the guitar, get it, and don't worry about resale. Let them pry it from my cold dead hands and heirs can sell it. I have a Cort Sunset 1, which is a clone of a Gretsch Spectrasonic, TV Jones, Bigsby, Tonepros roller, Grover tuners, around $500 retail for just hardware. And the wood work is top notch too. Got it new for $650. Stinkingly amazing guitar but has that Cort name up there. I won't be selling that before my pre Fender Guilds, etc. If you love it, don't let it go.
                                Last edited by Emory; 07-25-2014, 11:44 PM.

                            • #45
                              I don't buy many guitars new any more (which I assume the topic about and not high ends guitars you got a good deal on). the last 5 or 6 I built myself with another one on the way. I think the last new guitar I bought an Affinity Tele for $169.

                              If you like slim necks they are actually pretty good with a little work. No major issues and they sound good enough. I've had mine several years and have since replaces the bridge, tuners and frets with super jumbo. Oh and I put in a 4 way switch to get the extra pickup in series tone.

                              I did own a high end Fender Tele back in the 70's and I'd say this one isn't bad in comparison. The hardware is a bit cheesier and the frets didn't last very long, but nothing too hard to correct. Its also fairly light weight which makes it fin to play. I never bothered changing the pickups because they do give me a warmer cranked tone. I may try something more classic at some point but I do have other options for those tones.

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