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  • Time to retune all of your guitars?

    to 432Hz

    http://motherboard.vice.com/read/the...source=popular


    And a demo,













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    Last edited by Floyd Rosenbomb; 05-14-2014, 08:18 AM.
    Besides being a guitar player,
    I'm a big fan of the guitar.
    I love that damn instrument.
    -Steve Vai

  • #2
    How to tune to 432 using a Snark.
    Turn on the snark and press the round button on the back of the snark, a tuning fork icon will show on the right side of the screen use the arrow buttons to go up or down as indicated by the numbers on the lower left screen.
    Besides being a guitar player,
    I'm a big fan of the guitar.
    I love that damn instrument.
    -Steve Vai

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    • #3
      What surprises me is that there is any difference at all!
      However the outcome seems to be that the 440 sounds considerably fresher than the 432.
      Next stage in the experiment would be to slow the 440 recording down that fraction and see if it sounds like the 432 or maintains the difference in timbre.
      Less is more

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      • #4
        I feel like the difference applies to that guitar with those strings using that particular recording equipment.
        Your results may vary

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        • #5
          There is a lot of info out there on this. Some of it seems pretty unfounded (Nazis etc.). However, the idea is that 432 resonates at a with all sorts of naturally occurring phenomenon (life) where as 440 introduces a bit of a clashing.

          this picture helps to demonstrate this,




          I'm not saying it is so, just that that's the idea.
          Supposedly The Beatles tuned 432 Hz. It would be fun to verify that.

          I tuned a Strat to 432 and played for about an hour. I enjoyed it, but I always enjoyed playing. Then I pickup up another guitar tuned to 440 and played for 20 minutes or so. I enjoyed that too.
          ...It's an interesting idea anyway.






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          Last edited by Floyd Rosenbomb; 05-14-2014, 12:05 PM.
          Besides being a guitar player,
          I'm a big fan of the guitar.
          I love that damn instrument.
          -Steve Vai

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          • #6
            Tried it doing ambient space guitar using my VG-99 and strat to pitch everything to 432 and then did the same thing at 440. I'll post results a bit later for you.
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            • #7
              "Yogic schools teach that all living beings exhale and inhale 21,600 times a day. 21,600x2=43,200.
              There are 86,400 seconds in a 24 hour period, 43,200 seconds for each 12 hour period of day and night.
              The diameter of the sun is 864,000 miles (2 x 432). The diameter of the moon is 2160 miles (432 / 2).
              The orbit of Jupiter takes about 4332.59 days, or about 12 years.
              A computer program found that the optimal number of dimples on a golf ball is 432."
              Besides being a guitar player,
              I'm a big fan of the guitar.
              I love that damn instrument.
              -Steve Vai

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              • #8
                And I thought the answer was 42.
                Don't pick a fight with an old man,
                If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.


                '' Who, me Officer?''

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                • #9
                  When this came up the first time it was 431 vs 440 so I did both. And since it was a suitably mystical topic, I used my guitar into enough FX processors to create a new-agey atmosphere:

                  http://madsound.dyndns.org/440431/431.mp3
                  For the 431hz based piece

                  http://madsound.dyndns.org/440431/440.mp3
                  For the 440hz based piece

                  What do you think? I know that I found the 431 felt a little more unsettling and less relaxed IMO.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Floyd Rosenbomb View Post
                    There is a lot of info out there on this. Some of it seems pretty unfounded (Nazis etc.). However, the idea is that 432 resonates at a with all sorts of naturally occurring phenomenon (life) where as 440 introduces a bit of a clashing.

                    this picture helps to demonstrate this,




                    I'm not saying it is so, just that that's the idea.
                    Supposedly The Beatles tuned 432 Hz. It would be fun to verify that.

                    I tuned a Strat to 432 and played for about an hour. I enjoyed it, but I always enjoyed playing. Then I pickup up another guitar tuned to 440 and played for 20 minutes or so. I enjoyed that too.
                    ...It's an interesting idea anyway.






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                    Well after listening I must say I am not blown away. I think it is interesting, because it ''wrong foots' you, not going where your brain expects. But better???
                    Interesting though.
                    Its certainly not ''in tune'' with my psyche. Mind you that could explain a lot.
                    Don't pick a fight with an old man,
                    If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.


                    '' Who, me Officer?''

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                    • #11
                      First thing to realise is that the second is a completely arbitrary length of time The day is a real'ish' duration as a world rotation, but hours minutes and seconds are not. Neither are feet, miles, or inches. Base 10 numbers are also arbitrary based on our fingers. So trying to get relationships between these elements bases on the length of a Romans foot or the distance between the emperors fingertip and the tip of his nose is delusional.
                      Gamalan to all that .
                      One thing worth noting though is that, especially through the 20th century, all music is in tune and the little hair receptors in our ear cochlea will have experienced predominantly those frequencies. The slight shift here will be vibrating the adjascent hairs which are not ususally the centre of attention so may well be less fatigued by a lifetime of 440 based scales presenting the auditory part of the brain with a slightly different signal to what it is used to. Hence the novel sensation.
                      Less is more

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                      • #12
                        i don't think that git likes the downtuning...
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                        • #13
                          Here's a good one for you when it comes to dialing up the best pitch and tone. It sounds far fetched but it actually works. I'm not sure if you all are over 21 so you may not visit clubs to see bands, but I spent half my life playing clubs so I've see allot of bands over the years.

                          Way back, must have been in the 70's I went out with some fellow musicians to bar hop and see the best bands around and we'd go in and see a band, have a few beers, check a band out then go see another. While I was watching this one killer cover band with a beer can in one hand, sipping away, I noticed the can vibrating my finger tips. As I drained the can empty, the can was vibrating like a tuning fork in my hand. I gave it to my buddies and asked them what they felt and they are felt the same resonance of the can in their hands.

                          We kind of blew it off with a chuckle and went on to see another band. They weren't nearly as good and guess what. The can didn't vibrate like it had for the other band. We went to see a third band which again was pretty good, and dam it if the can didn't resonate like the first did.

                          In later years I remembered that effect and when I got into recording heavily and got a mix close to being perfect, you guessed it. I'd get that same beer can resonance happening when the music's midrange was pumping just right. I tested this on a bunch of completed mixes and I found the mixes that didn't produce this resonance weren't up to par. I figured it was just a coincidence but it sure was a real interesting one. If a can in the hands of customers lets them know when its empty, the proprietor is more likely to sell more product.

                          I surely wont go as far as saying the cans were designed to do that, but music and refreshments do get grouped together allot. In any case you may want to investigate it for yourself. Try it in front of a good Hi Fi system with different music, then try it in front of your guitar amp. You'll likely find a specific chord or note that will make that can vibrate off a table.

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                          • #14
                            Interesting study.
                            It would depend on what sound you're trying to get. Maybe tune to 440 when you want that bright energetic sound and tune to 432 when you want a darker sound (like a vintage recording).
                            http://www.thesymbolsband.com

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                            • #15
                              Am I the only one who though the 432 sounded like dog crap?

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