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  • need help with a rpoblem on my current guitar

    as i mentioned in an earlier thread my guitars are trashed but the only way i am getitng another one is to try and fix them up (on my own) and sell them,

    i have a (terrible by the way) bc rich warlock (yes i bought it when i was young and stupid and into bad music)

    first of all i am missing some screws that hold the pickups in the place (anyone know where i can find any of them?). but the main problem is when i tune it in (tighten them) and then move onto the next string to tighten the one above it becomes looser this is because the more i tighten each string the more the thing at the bottom of the guitar rises (not sure what it is called, where the string come out of)

    so if i keep trying the thing is almost OUT of the guitar, i could try jamming something to stop it form rising but if i sell it like that i will get one unhappy buyrer, it their a proper way to fix it or is it useless (and therefore worth nothing)

    i am finding it hard to fund a new guitar and selling bother my guitars (even for
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  • #2
    dude, you don't have to justify your guitars to us. Especially me, I have three BC Richs.....

    Do you have a floyd rose bridge, or a classic bridge?

    Floyd:



    Classic/vintage:

    Originally posted by lastcall
    Listen you tree hugging hippi. Next time a real rocker tries to sell you some gear to help you shred better you had best say, "thank you sir but we're not talented enough to shred". Then as a show of respect you should ask to see his favorite Ibanez, or ask to touch his mullet for luck. Then maybe, just maybe he'll teach you some of his shredding secrets, and you'll be on your way to being real rock stars.

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    • #3
      whether you have a floyd rose or classic bridge, you most likely have to take the cover off the back of the guitar and tighten up the springs to keep the bridge level with the surface of the guitar... see pic



      Here's a link to setting up a Floyd. Pay close attention to steps 4 and 5.

      Good luck!

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      • #4
        The problem he is having is because he is tuning the strings to pitch one by one, it's nothing to do with the spring claw - yet.
        Originally posted by lastcall
        Listen you tree hugging hippi. Next time a real rocker tries to sell you some gear to help you shred better you had best say, "thank you sir but we're not talented enough to shred". Then as a show of respect you should ask to see his favorite Ibanez, or ask to touch his mullet for luck. Then maybe, just maybe he'll teach you some of his shredding secrets, and you'll be on your way to being real rock stars.

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        • #5
          no it is the springs, thanks i will try tightening them and see if it works.

          anyone know where i can get the scrws for the pickups

          all i need is the screws and i might be able to amke some money off it!

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          • #6
            you know best

            as for screws:

            http://www.axesrus.com
            http://www.allparts.uk.com
            Originally posted by lastcall
            Listen you tree hugging hippi. Next time a real rocker tries to sell you some gear to help you shred better you had best say, "thank you sir but we're not talented enough to shred". Then as a show of respect you should ask to see his favorite Ibanez, or ask to touch his mullet for luck. Then maybe, just maybe he'll teach you some of his shredding secrets, and you'll be on your way to being real rock stars.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by TheDarxide
              ...nothing to do with the spring claw

              Originally posted by idrisguitar
              when i tune it in (tighten them) and then move onto the next string ... the thing at the bottom of the guitar rises... so if i keep trying the thing is almost OUT of the guitar...


              sure sounds like the springs are missing/ too loose/ or too weak for his string gauge to me (not necessarily the claw). In fact, I can't think of anything else that could cause these symptoms. What are your thoughts, Darxide?

              Maybe he's changed string gauges.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by A_Gitarman



                sure sounds like the springs are missing/ too loose/ or too weak for his string gauge to me (not necessarily the claw). In fact, I can't think of anything else that could cause these symptoms. What are your thoughts, Darxide?

                Maybe he's changed string gauges.


                The clue to me is the fact he says that the next string goes floppy - he tunes one to pitch, which raises ones side of the floating bridge, and then drop the other. Depending on which edition BC Rich it is, I was going to get him to either clamp the bridge and then tune, or walk him through tuning a floyd.
                Altering the spring claw / adding springs etc will only affect the overall amount of float available, and won't solve any tuning problems.
                Originally posted by lastcall
                Listen you tree hugging hippi. Next time a real rocker tries to sell you some gear to help you shred better you had best say, "thank you sir but we're not talented enough to shred". Then as a show of respect you should ask to see his favorite Ibanez, or ask to touch his mullet for luck. Then maybe, just maybe he'll teach you some of his shredding secrets, and you'll be on your way to being real rock stars.

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                • #9
                  cheer got em ordered.

                  i did know it was somehting to do with the springs, just didn'tknow they would be tightned so easily (i am imagineing hte inside of the guitar now i dont remmeber seieng screws to tighten the springs but i am sure it can be done.
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                  • #10
                    okay darxide you may be onto something,

                    i really need to be at home to trry all these things,

                    by the way i think i have the vintage classic pickups if that helps,

                    yeah maybe tightening the string wont have the effect i think it will.

                    what should i do if tightening the springs dont work?,....how would i clamp it?
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                    • #11
                      Why don't you tell me what your bridge is, and I'll walk you through fixing the problem....
                      Originally posted by lastcall
                      Listen you tree hugging hippi. Next time a real rocker tries to sell you some gear to help you shred better you had best say, "thank you sir but we're not talented enough to shred". Then as a show of respect you should ask to see his favorite Ibanez, or ask to touch his mullet for luck. Then maybe, just maybe he'll teach you some of his shredding secrets, and you'll be on your way to being real rock stars.

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                      • #12
                        .....im really sorry i have been playing for a long time and as i said made bad diecisions and never researched meaning i dont really know much about the guitars i have (laugh if you want i know it is pathetic) i am 18 now and have finallybecome matrure enough to mae sure i know what i am buying.

                        i will go home and give you as many details as i can then, (in about 1 hour)

                        so you can help me fix it up and give me a price your willing to pay.
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                        • #13
                          From the pictures in my first posts, do you recognise either of them from your guitar?

                          I'm not going to laugh at lack of knowledge, if you've never needed to know you're not going to know....
                          Originally posted by lastcall
                          Listen you tree hugging hippi. Next time a real rocker tries to sell you some gear to help you shred better you had best say, "thank you sir but we're not talented enough to shred". Then as a show of respect you should ask to see his favorite Ibanez, or ask to touch his mullet for luck. Then maybe, just maybe he'll teach you some of his shredding secrets, and you'll be on your way to being real rock stars.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by TheDarxide


                            The clue to me is the fact he says that the next string goes floppy - he tunes one to pitch, which raises ones side of the floating bridge, and then drop the other. Depending on which edition BC Rich it is, I was going to get him to either clamp the bridge and then tune, or walk him through tuning a floyd.
                            Altering the spring claw / adding springs etc will only affect the overall amount of float available, and won't solve any tuning problems.



                            I think we're seeing the same problem but approaching it differently. i.e. His bridge is lifting out of it's cavity when he tightens any given string, causing the others to drop in pitch. In my experience, people usually encounter these sorts of problems if they change string gauges and/or have springs that are too weak.

                            In this case, it looks like he needs more of a step-by-step solution like you have proposed.


                            Peace.

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                            • #15
                              above poster that is exactly what is happening.

                              and they are the vintage classic bridge.

                              i am pming you now the details, haven't got much, check it though
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