Members joecool1963 Posted April 23, 2005 Members Share Posted April 23, 2005 What's the deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members swampfox99 Posted April 23, 2005 Members Share Posted April 23, 2005 Agiles are so great because they're prices are so low. Also the guitars aren't bad either and customer service is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JimboJ Posted April 23, 2005 Members Share Posted April 23, 2005 Because you get Gibson quality for a fraction of the cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members johndempsey Posted April 23, 2005 Members Share Posted April 23, 2005 They aren't, they're average Korean built guitars at a lower price than a comparable Schecter, Ibanez , or ESP. They sell direct,so there's no middleman jacking up the price an additional 30%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kevman Posted April 23, 2005 Members Share Posted April 23, 2005 I'd say that they are a little better than average.The 2000 and 2500 series are built very well and the 3000-3500 series have cool goodies as well. Many have said that the 2500 is as nice ore nicer than Epi's LP standard (I agree with this) and they go for about 1/2 the price. The value follows the line all the way up to the 3500 with Duncans. THough it is firmly planted in the mid-priced market you won't find a better spec/dollar out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members L6Sguy Posted April 23, 2005 Members Share Posted April 23, 2005 Originally posted by johndempsey They aren't, they're average Korean built guitars at a lower price than a comparable Schecter, Ibanez , or ESP. They sell direct,so there's no middleman jacking up the price an additional 30%. and no advertising budget, no sponsorship deals, no huge swag budgets, not a whole lot of 'executive' salaries to pay, etc etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kwsher Posted April 23, 2005 Members Share Posted April 23, 2005 Great customer service (unbelievable actually) and ALOT of guitar for the money... I just got my first last week. Here's some shots and I will post a full review next week... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kevman Posted April 23, 2005 Members Share Posted April 23, 2005 Thats a pretty guitar. Good choice I'm fond of the rootbeer. Does it play well? How are the pups? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members johndempsey Posted April 23, 2005 Members Share Posted April 23, 2005 Add 30% to the price of any Agile and they're average. Also, lower and midline Epi's are not made in Korea. I'm refering to strictly Korean made instruments. I'm not ripping on Agiles, but there's no mystique to them, they're just OEM'd Korean guitars subcontracted just like Nelsonics, Epis, ESPs, Schecters, MIK Fenders, blah, blah, the list goes on and on. Originally posted by Kevman I'd say that they are a little better than average.The 2000 and 2500 series are built very well and the 3000-3500 series have cool goodies as well. Many have said that the 2500 is as nice ore nicer than Epi's LP standard (I agree with this) and they go for about 1/2 the price. The value follows the line all the way up to the 3500 with Duncans. THough it is firmly planted in the mid-priced market you won't find a better spec/dollar out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brian Krashpad Posted April 23, 2005 Members Share Posted April 23, 2005 Originally posted by swampfox99 Agiles are so great because they're prices are so low. Also the guitars aren't bad either and customer service is great. Bingo. I got a quasi-SG knockoff with P-90's, an unavailable option as an Epi, for $99 on closeout. Well worth twice that much, plus you simply could not get anything new and Gibby-approved (you'd have to get a Gibson SG Classic or Townshend SG for big bucks) for under seven or eight times as much, and that's being generous. The real beauty is I can gig the dang thing straoight outta the box. And I have. BK PS-- I also own 2 Gibbies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MorganBucks Posted April 23, 2005 Members Share Posted April 23, 2005 EOM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kevman Posted April 23, 2005 Members Share Posted April 23, 2005 Whatever dude. My point was/is you won't find a better guitar for the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kwsher Posted April 23, 2005 Members Share Posted April 23, 2005 I am a beginner so somewhat hestitant to comment but it sounds comparable to other guitars I played prior to buying which included Gibsons and Epi Elitists. The rootbeer has the upgraded pickups (same as 3500 series) and am not sure how they compare to the other Agile pups, but I am very satisfied with the sound quality and dynamics of these;I spend the majority of practice time running it through the clean channel of a Roland Cube 30 and it is amazing. I took it into the shop I go to/take lessons at (owned by Kirk Sand of Sand Guitars-- actual luthiers) expecting the action to need some slight adjustment but it was perfect out of the box. They were also amazed at the quality vs. price point. John Heusensstamm, my instructor, liked it so much I could hardly get it back after he started playing. I am working on a full review (from a beginner perspective) and should have it complete by tomorrow... I couldn't be happier with this quitar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarcapo Posted April 24, 2005 Members Share Posted April 24, 2005 Just a good quality guitar cheap without all the hype and bull{censored}. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members seifukusha Posted April 24, 2005 Members Share Posted April 24, 2005 Originally posted by kwsher those are really nice pics. cosmetically, i dont like the fretmarkers, but that is a really sweet looking guitar. i finally saw a place in Seoul that sells the sx and agile locally. didnt have alot of time to talk to them cause i had to meet this... so..maybe next time... i love that rootbeer, and the headstock looks surprisingly noncheesy. cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kwsher Posted April 24, 2005 Members Share Posted April 24, 2005 thanks! seems like your priorities are exactly where they should be I actually like the Agile headstock a lot better than the Epis that I looked at... the Agile logo and fleur de lis is mother of pearl and is really nicely finished although it doesn't show well in the photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JimboJ Posted April 24, 2005 Members Share Posted April 24, 2005 Originally posted by guitarcapo Just a good quality guitar cheap without all the hype and bull{censored}. Yeah, no Agile hype on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shocker Posted April 24, 2005 Members Share Posted April 24, 2005 Originally posted by johndempsey Add 30% to the price of any Agile and they're average. Also, lower and midline Epi's are not made in Korea. I'm refering to strictly Korean made instruments. I'm not ripping on Agiles, but there's no mystique to them, they're just OEM'd Korean guitars subcontracted just like Nelsonics, Epis, ESPs, Schecters, MIK Fenders, blah, blah, the list goes on and on. Right. But you sure are throwing around that 30% capriciously. The simple fact is that you can't walk into a store and find an instrument of similar quality at the same price point. This isn't to say there aren't nice instruments at $200, but a $200 Agile regularly crushed $200 offerings from Squier, Ibanez, Oscar Schmidt, etc. The 2500 series is now bumped up in price, and I've not heard much yet about the 2000's, but the stories of Agile owners is generally one of people being amazed at getting the amount of guitar they got for the money they paid. They are amazed because they look around and see what else is comparable in that range and find it extremely wanting. //S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members johndempsey Posted April 24, 2005 Members Share Posted April 24, 2005 Hmmm, they sell SX & Agiles locally in Seoul? Ha, I wonder if Rondo knows about that...... Originally posted by seifukusha those are really nice pics. cosmetically, i dont like the fretmarkers, but that is a really sweet looking guitar. i finally saw a place in Seoul that sells the sx and agile locally. didnt have alot of time to talk to them cause i had to meet this... so..maybe next time... i love that rootbeer, and the headstock looks surprisingly noncheesy. cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members johndempsey Posted April 24, 2005 Members Share Posted April 24, 2005 All I'm saying is that ther's no magic formula to what Agiles are, they come from the same factory that several other brands come from, just at a cheaper price without the middleman, advertising , blah blah blah. Their $400 guitar is Schecters $600 guitar, it's not like they're made by magic little elves like Keebler products are!!!! Originally posted by Shocker Right. But you sure are throwing around that 30% capriciously. The simple fact is that you can't walk into a store and find an instrument of similar quality at the same price point. This isn't to say there aren't nice instruments at $200, but a $200 Agile regularly crushed $200 offerings from Squier, Ibanez, Oscar Schmidt, etc.The 2500 series is now bumped up in price, and I've not heard much yet about the 2000's, but the stories of Agile owners is generally one of people being amazed at getting the amount of guitar they got for the money they paid. They are amazed because they look around and see what else is comparable in that range and find it extremely wanting.//S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members seifukusha Posted April 24, 2005 Members Share Posted April 24, 2005 Originally posted by johndempsey Hmmm, they sell SX & Agiles locally in Seoul? Ha, I wonder if Rondo knows about that...... well, if he wants to come here, ill translate for him... $100 an hour... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fuzzy4dice Posted April 24, 2005 Members Share Posted April 24, 2005 Originally posted by johndempsey Hmmm, they sell SX & Agiles locally in Seoul?Ha, I wonder if Rondo knows about that...... If they didn't before...they do now. Big Brother (Kurt) is always watching!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members joecool1963 Posted April 24, 2005 Author Members Share Posted April 24, 2005 so where is the sweet spot in the line. He's got so damn many models so close together in price... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shocker Posted April 24, 2005 Members Share Posted April 24, 2005 Depends on what you're looking for. //S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kevman Posted April 24, 2005 Members Share Posted April 24, 2005 I don't think anyone thinks that they are made by magic elves.But your argument is the same as mine. They make a good guitar for the money. As good a guitar as you'd pay more for elsewhere. You said it yourself. That is why they are popular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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