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  • Which ESP/Ltd model has a slim neck?

    My les pauls neck is to thick for me to play comfortably. I'm looking at ESP Ltd models. My budget will be about $500.
    Originally Posted by Caulk Rocket


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  • #2
    my LTD SC-500 ( stephen carpenter ) model has a very slim/playable neck.
    " They’ve filled up all the spaces with tricks and fast scales, and space is probably the most important element in music. "

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    • #3
      The h-400 and mh-400 have kinda thin necks.
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      • #4
        I think Stephen's ESP sigs have their slimmest neck, but I don't know if the LTD models are the same spec in that regard.

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        • #5
          M-series...

          http://p222.ezboard.com/fespguitarsmessageboardltdandespguitartalk.showMes sage?topicID=8361.topic

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Angus_Poser
            My les pauls neck is to thick for me to play comfortably. I'm looking at ESP Ltd models. My budget will be about $500.


            The Eclipses necks are thin and play nicely. I have the EC-1000 and would recommend it.

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            • #7
              if you want an EC, PM megadeth, hes elling a EC-400, thats the range where the LTD's get into the nicer quality, better finishes,earvana nut,etc.
              " They’ve filled up all the spaces with tricks and fast scales, and space is probably the most important element in music. "

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Alktrio88
                if you want an EC, PM megadeth, hes elling a EC-400, thats the range where the LTD's get into the nicer quality, better finishes,earvana nut,etc.


                Yeah PM him if you want screwed!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Eric John


                  The Eclipses necks are thin and play nicely. I have the EC-1000 and would recommend it.


                  relative to a gibson, it is a slim neck, relative to a M, its a fat neck.
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                  • #10
                    Thanks guys, my new dream guitar is the Ltd. MH-400NT
                    Originally Posted by Caulk Rocket


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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Angus_Poser
                      Thanks guys, my new dream guitar is the Ltd. MH-400NT


                      Have you played one yet?

                      I was wanting an LTD real bad for a couple weeks, due to looking at the web site... when I finally tried one it felt and sounded dead- like a jackson with a floyd.

                      Today I just happened to try another one when I was shopping for a bass- I think it was an M-250 neck-through hardtail.

                      It felt dead and lifeless. Just like the $200 import Jacksons hanging next to it.

                      It was so bad that the bottom of the line $200 M-50 responded and sounded much much better.


                      I guess it must be because the neck wood of a bolt-on guitar has to be very dense so that you can screw the neck screws into it, but with a neck through the wood can be as cheap and light as you want.

                      The neck-through LTDs I've tried are very light so that makes sense.

                      I have NOT tried a 400 series or higher LTD- like the MH-400 etc... so it is possible they are good compared to the 300 series????
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                      • #12
                        Well I have an H-300 that sounds dead unplugged, but with gain plugged in it sounds very defined and crisp with a thick but tight bottom. I have 2 Ibanez RG's that sound very loud and lively unplugged, but plugged in that lively resonant quality translates to a washy and undefined tone. Different flavors I'd say. The washier tone has a grunge vibe going on and the crisper tone sounds more metal.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by JetCityMatt





                          I guess it must be because the neck wood of a bolt-on guitar has to be very dense so that you can screw the neck screws into it, but with a neck through the wood can be as cheap and light as you want.



                          thats not what I could call a good or even remotely educated guess. Also if you are a more serious player you shouldnt be looking at anything under the 400 series. And from personal experience, Ive actually come across a few 200 series models that save their pickups, were excellent.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by No Soul


                            thats not what I could call a good or even remotely educated guess. Also if you are a more serious player you shouldnt be looking at anything under the 400 series. And from personal experience, Ive actually come across a few 200 series models that save their pickups, were excellent.


                            Yeah I know that! That's why I said " I guess"!

                            I agree entirely that a serious player shouldn't be looking at anything less than a 400, but a year ago when I was looking I was low on cash and considering the 300 and 400 series both... at least until I tried one.

                            I base my "guess" on the fact that the H-250s weigh practically nothing (it is so light its amazing), which clearly reveals that the guitar is constructed from light wood. Light wood is obviously not very dense at all. That's science.

                            Add to this the fact that they sound completely dead to me everytime I try them, put the two together and you come to the result I did.

                            Then I picked up the cheapo M-50 and it sounded much better.
                            This is what got me thinking about the bolt-on vs. neck-thru issue with the ESP LTDs.

                            Obviously a quality neck-thru with a neck made from wood of some density (like a bolt-on maple neck is) will be at least as good as a bolt-on.
                            But not if the neck is made out of a piece of wood that weighs half a pound or something. Simple physics.

                            If someone comes a cross a decent 200 series- great!

                            But just make sure you never buy one mailorder without playing it to know in advance if it is a good one.

                            I'm not on some vendetta against ESP LTD- just stating my observations.... and musings....
                            DR Strings > '97 Mexi Strat: USACG neck & Super Vee Blade Runner > Duncan TB-11 Custom Custom, Fender Original '57/'62 > Barber Direct Drive > Soldano Astroverb > WGS RETRO 30 (replaced Vintage 30) in Avatar 2x12. DD-5 Delay, Chorus. Fender Blues Junior III (BillMAudio mods in the mail)

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Filter500
                              Well I have an H-300 that sounds dead unplugged, but with gain plugged in it sounds very defined and crisp with a thick but tight bottom. I have 2 Ibanez RG's that sound very loud and lively unplugged, but plugged in that lively resonant quality translates to a washy and undefined tone. Different flavors I'd say. The washier tone has a grunge vibe going on and the crisper tone sounds more metal.


                              Very interesting.

                              Again, I'm not just trying to discredit LTD neck throughs or anything. A guitar that sounds good through an amp for a certain application is a guitar that is good for that application- regardless of how it sounds unplugged. Of course I agree with that.

                              Do they both have the same pickups? Or at least the same type? I mean, you don't have passives in the RGs and EMGs in the LTD?
                              DR Strings > '97 Mexi Strat: USACG neck & Super Vee Blade Runner > Duncan TB-11 Custom Custom, Fender Original '57/'62 > Barber Direct Drive > Soldano Astroverb > WGS RETRO 30 (replaced Vintage 30) in Avatar 2x12. DD-5 Delay, Chorus. Fender Blues Junior III (BillMAudio mods in the mail)

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