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  • Bill Lawrence L500-XL Sound?

    can someone describe what these sound like in a high gain metal situation for rythym? Do they sound like any pickups currently available from other vendors?
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  • #2
    Supposedly the Seymour Duncan Dimebucker is a copy of this one.

    I ordered one last year (the L-500 XL from the one and only Bill Lawrence at www.billlawrence.com, not the other fake site) and replaced the stock Ibanez pickup in my old SA160.

    It was better, but I would be lying if I said it was a dramatic improvement (but that might because maybe the stock pickup was better than I thought it was).

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    • #3
      cool thanks! Is it considered a bright or dark pickup? Does it have a tonal flavor of any sort?
      Randall Flagg Full Length "Warning: Contains Audio" Distributed by The End Records

      Band Sites: www.colonyband.net & www.randallflagg.com
      Band Myspaces: www.myspace.com/colonybandnj & www.myspace.com/randallflagg

      1. Dual Recto (2 ch.) w/ Deluxe Voodoo Mod w/ 6L6GCMSTR
      2. Voodoo Amps 4x12 (V30&75 x-pattern)/ISP VectorSL Sub
      3. Ibanez RGT42FX (hardtail/A-E-A-D-Gb-B)
      - Bridge: Bare Knuckles "Warpig"
      - Neck: Duncan 59

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      • #4
        I really don't remember that well, I had for about 3 months before I sold my SA160 and decided I wanna go low and got myself a baritone instead.

        I remember it was quite good, balanced and had a clean tone, but I think the original Seymour Duncan JB on my ESP sounded better.

        But than the ESP costs 3 times as much as the Ibanez SA160 (which had a horrible tremolo that probably sucked out a lot of the tone), so it's hard for me to compare.

        Either way, the L-500 XL is inexpensive ($55 or so) so even if you don't like it you should be able to easily sell it for $40 or more on EBay to people who want to get it right away instead of waiting 4-6 weeks to get them from Bill and Becky.

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        • #5
          Lots of output, lots of top-end. Crunchy, but thin.

          I've got 2, one that used to be in a CU-22, and one that's coming out of a Warmoth superStrat.

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          • #6
            thin huh? that sucks? I thought people liked this for metal?
            Randall Flagg Full Length "Warning: Contains Audio" Distributed by The End Records

            Band Sites: www.colonyband.net & www.randallflagg.com
            Band Myspaces: www.myspace.com/colonybandnj & www.myspace.com/randallflagg

            1. Dual Recto (2 ch.) w/ Deluxe Voodoo Mod w/ 6L6GCMSTR
            2. Voodoo Amps 4x12 (V30&75 x-pattern)/ISP VectorSL Sub
            3. Ibanez RGT42FX (hardtail/A-E-A-D-Gb-B)
            - Bridge: Bare Knuckles "Warpig"
            - Neck: Duncan 59

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            • #7
              Well, sometimes less bass is better...for example on my baritone I cut down a lot of the bass before the preamp and boost it only afterwards.

              this helps a lot to get a really chunky sound when palm muting, 'cause boosting the bass on thick string will just make it sound like mud, especially on palm mutes.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by rsf1977
                thin huh? that sucks? I thought people liked this for metal?


                The EMG 81 is the thinnest sounding pickup i have ever heard, but it cuts ridiculously well. With the right eq'ing you can get them more beefy, obviously.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by EdgySwingsetAcid


                  The EMG 81 is the thinnest sounding pickup i have ever heard, but it cuts ridiculously well. With the right eq'ing you can get them more beefy, obviously.



                  good point! I should have thought of that lol I always want it to be perfect out of the box and i guess nothing really is
                  Randall Flagg Full Length "Warning: Contains Audio" Distributed by The End Records

                  Band Sites: www.colonyband.net & www.randallflagg.com
                  Band Myspaces: www.myspace.com/colonybandnj & www.myspace.com/randallflagg

                  1. Dual Recto (2 ch.) w/ Deluxe Voodoo Mod w/ 6L6GCMSTR
                  2. Voodoo Amps 4x12 (V30&75 x-pattern)/ISP VectorSL Sub
                  3. Ibanez RGT42FX (hardtail/A-E-A-D-Gb-B)
                  - Bridge: Bare Knuckles "Warpig"
                  - Neck: Duncan 59

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                  • #10
                    i have the L500L, which is lower output, and it screams. the word i think of is "clear".
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Central Scrutinizer
                      i have the L500L, which is lower output, and it screams. the word i think of is "clear".


                      nice! what is 500XL supposed to sound like in comparison to the 500L?
                      Randall Flagg Full Length "Warning: Contains Audio" Distributed by The End Records

                      Band Sites: www.colonyband.net & www.randallflagg.com
                      Band Myspaces: www.myspace.com/colonybandnj & www.myspace.com/randallflagg

                      1. Dual Recto (2 ch.) w/ Deluxe Voodoo Mod w/ 6L6GCMSTR
                      2. Voodoo Amps 4x12 (V30&75 x-pattern)/ISP VectorSL Sub
                      3. Ibanez RGT42FX (hardtail/A-E-A-D-Gb-B)
                      - Bridge: Bare Knuckles "Warpig"
                      - Neck: Duncan 59

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by rsf1977


                        nice! what is 500XL supposed to sound like in comparison to the 500L?


                        its simply supposed to be higher output. personally, i don't think that's a good thing, as i'd rather the amp did the work, and not compress so fast. YMMV.
                        The Common Sense Mets Fan

                        There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there always has been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge." - Isaac Asimov, Newsweek (21 January 1980)

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                        • #13
                          I have a genuine XL and yes, I would say clear is a better description than thin. There is a fair amount of treble, but I have found that with all ceramic magnet pickups I've played. It's great for hard rock and metal. Quite agressive nature overall and it has a surprisingly good twangy clean.

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                          • #14
                            i'm insterested in the L-500 because of the blade setup but I don't like twang. looking for more of a blues cruch
                            Would i be better off with a L-500 R?
                            or should i look somewhere else
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by SoundwaveLove
                              i'm insterested in the L-500 because of the blade setup but I don't like twang. looking for more of a blues cruch
                              Would i be better off with a L-500 R?
                              or should i look somewhere else


                              the R is the neck pup that is matched to the XL.

                              i'd go with an L. i like it in my ibanez.
                              The Common Sense Mets Fan

                              There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there always has been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge." - Isaac Asimov, Newsweek (21 January 1980)

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