Members KATMAN Posted February 16, 2006 Members Share Posted February 16, 2006 These were his best sound period in my opinion. Not really a huge fan,but he had the biggest tone that a non-Gibson made during in that rock era.If I can find that pickup,and put in my Pacifica,I'd be a happy man.If I could play like Eddie,I'd be a lot happier,but that's another story. Anybody know which and what kind of pickups he was using back then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vibroluxman Posted February 16, 2006 Members Share Posted February 16, 2006 some humbucker that was halfway broken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jjpistols Posted February 16, 2006 Members Share Posted February 16, 2006 I think I've read that he used an old Gibson pup Cloudnine should know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted February 17, 2006 Members Share Posted February 17, 2006 Your typical PAF type of pickup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vibroluxman Posted February 17, 2006 Members Share Posted February 17, 2006 I think it was a PAF type, but it was broken - eddie said so himself in an interview in GP back in '91 or 2. Half the winding wasn't working right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hondro Posted February 17, 2006 Members Share Posted February 17, 2006 62 ES-335 bridge pickup:o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pott Posted February 17, 2006 Members Share Posted February 17, 2006 Originally posted by hondro 62 ES-335 bridge pickup:o I heard 54 but I guess no one but him will know 100%, otherwise yeah I heard from a 335 too. Nowadays people say the Seymour Duncan SH11 Custom Custom gets you closest. Though there's also the SD custom shop 78' EVH (Enhenced Voiced Harmonics or something like this...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bryvincent Posted February 17, 2006 Members Share Posted February 17, 2006 Originally posted by Pott I heard 54 but I guess no one but him will know 100%, otherwise yeah I heard from a 335 too.Nowadays people say the Seymour Duncan SH11 Custom Custom gets you closest. Though there's also the SD custom shop 78' EVH (Enhenced Voiced Harmonics or something like this...) both the Humbucker(PAF) and the ES-335 wasn't available yet in '54 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members marloni Posted February 17, 2006 Members Share Posted February 17, 2006 Eddie used a gibson PAF he took off a GIbson es-335. he dipped it in parrafin wax so that it won't squeal. The Seymour duncan seth lover pickup sounds the closes to his original pickup in my opinion. the problem is, it doesn't come from the factory wax potted I believe. so you'll have to wax pot it somehow if you want to use it with high gain. then he used a duncan 59' model on his kramer. it sounds like the seth lover but with more scooped mids. eddie says he rewired the pickups by hand, but I think it's bullshit. if you rewire a pickup, it would be a totally different pickup. no use in even saying it was a gibson PAF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LoFiBrian Posted February 17, 2006 Members Share Posted February 17, 2006 Originally posted by marloni eddie says he rewired the pickups by hand, but I think it's bull{censored}. if you rewire a pickup, it would be a totally different pickup. no use in even saying it was a gibson PAF. You mean rewind right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jjpistols Posted February 17, 2006 Members Share Posted February 17, 2006 Originally posted by bryvincent both the Humbucker(PAF) and the ES-335 wasn't available yet in '54 duh! if you're Eddie Van Halen, you just call up Michael J Fox and ask for a ride back to 1954 it was actually a 345, though - the donor guitar was featured at The Enchantment Under The Sea dance, with Marvin Berry geez - it's like some of you people have absolutely no reading comprehension skills whatsoever - this dead horse topic has been beaten so much that, um, it's like it's dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members marloni Posted February 17, 2006 Members Share Posted February 17, 2006 Originally posted by LoFiBrian You mean rewind right? ah yes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members KATMAN Posted February 17, 2006 Author Members Share Posted February 17, 2006 Originally posted by Pott Nowadays people say the Seymour Duncan SH11 Custom Custom gets you closest. Though there's also the SD custom shop 78' EVH (Enhenced Voiced Harmonics or something like this...) That was going to be my next question,I quess it depends on your ears and amp to get HIS sound.Other questions,what are other good pickups that produce a fat,punched sound? I heard the SD George Lynch Screamin Demon is supposed to be good,any others that you all may have tried? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members marloni Posted February 17, 2006 Members Share Posted February 17, 2006 i don't think the custom custom sounds like VH. the seth lover and the 59' model is the closest. the secret to eddie's early sound. lite ash body +maple neck + SD seth lover = early VH tone. or for his late 80's sound, use a 59' model. if it doesn't sound like it you can sue me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bubkus_jones Posted February 17, 2006 Members Share Posted February 17, 2006 Originally posted by hondro 62 ES-335 bridge pickup:o NECK pickup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cloudnine Posted February 17, 2006 Members Share Posted February 17, 2006 Yeah, PAF from the ES-335 supposedly rewound by him or Seymour Duncan. Who knows - the dude has lied about his gear on more than a few occasions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Idiot Posted February 17, 2006 Members Share Posted February 17, 2006 So basically, it was an un-potted pick-up like the seth lover pick-up we have today, I'm I correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cloudnine Posted February 17, 2006 Members Share Posted February 17, 2006 Originally posted by The Idiot So basically, it was an un-potted pick-up like the seth lover pick-up we have today, I'm I correct? No, he potted it with paraffin wax on his stove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Idiot Posted February 17, 2006 Members Share Posted February 17, 2006 Originally posted by cloudnine Yeah, PAF from the ES-335 supposedly rewound by him or Seymour Duncan.Who knows - the dude has lied about his gear on more than a few occasions. Haha, just like robbie robertson did back in 70s when everyone wanted to sound like the band. He told the people to put greese on their pickups - he {censored}ed a lot of peoples' pickups that way.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BowerR64 Posted February 17, 2006 Members Share Posted February 17, 2006 I read on the eddievanhalen.com site that he took a 59 that had a bad coil then put a coil from another PAF and put it in the frame of the 59 to create a 59/PAF hybrid. Duncan calls it an unbucker because they are 2 different coils. If you look at some of the closeups it looks like a 59, you can see the braded wire and {censored}. I think there was more to his sound then just the pickup also. He did some whacky {censored} to his amp too. One site i read where a guy had some old pics of the band in a rehersal hall and he pointed out some shot on the floor eddies was using. He said he used a marshall that was supose to run a higher voltage in the UK or somthing and eddie had it running at about half the voltage it was supose to use. A variable transformer or some {censored}. His dad i think was a tv repairman and he knew alot about tubes and electronics so i think his dad helped him tweak his {censored}. If you listen to some of those old CDs use your balance control, if you pan the speakers all the way to one side you wont hear him in the mix. Its like he recorded in mono on only one channel or somthing weird. With the balance in the center it still sounds full Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BowerR64 Posted February 17, 2006 Members Share Posted February 17, 2006 If you look at this picture, you can see one coil is all rusty and old, the other is fairly clean and new. Also the spacing of the 2 are not the same. The top coil seems to be right, the bottom coil near the bridge seems to be a neck pickup with a more narrow spacing. People that make replicas wondered what that little red dot was, i thought it looked like an extra button from a shirt he glued into his guitar. When you look at the cobbled mess, its amazing the thing even worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members marloni Posted February 17, 2006 Members Share Posted February 17, 2006 eddie never told the total truth about his gear. he said himself an GW interview he doesn't like everyone knowing what he used. just take what he says in interviews carefully coz some of it is is true and some bull{censored}. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members marloni Posted February 17, 2006 Members Share Posted February 17, 2006 Originally posted by BowerR64 I think there was more to his sound then just the pickup also. He did some whacky {censored} to his amp too. all eddie did with his amp was lower the voltage to 89 volts so he can get good distortion without blowing up his amp. other than that, it's just a stock marshall. it's funny when people try to speculate what gear eddie uses. eddie probably laughs his head off when someone trys to speculate what gear he uses and gets it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LoFiBrian Posted February 17, 2006 Members Share Posted February 17, 2006 Originally posted by marloni eddie never told the total truth about his gear. he said himself an GW interview he doesn't like everyone knowing what he used. just take what he says in interviews carefully coz some of it is is true and some bullshit. Just like Kurt Cobain used piano wire for strings because he could not get strings thick enough for his taste... not to say Kurt was a good guitar player...but some musicians are known to fuck with details on their gear to fuck with people... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hondro Posted February 17, 2006 Members Share Posted February 17, 2006 ok, I'm gonna hijack this thread is that red white and black guitar the same as the one on the cover of VH1? its a boogie body body and a Fender neck right? (originally) he then put a Kramer neck on it and a Floyd Rose and cut the pickguard up and added red to it he put those eye-hook strap buttons on too what about that neck pickup? did he ever use that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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