Members jmingo Posted December 12, 2006 Members Share Posted December 12, 2006 I like the look of old vintage strat rosewood necks (i think they're brazilian??) that have quite dark wood. Are there any tricks to darken up my rosewood fretboard safely?? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mrbrown49 Posted December 12, 2006 Members Share Posted December 12, 2006 play it alot for many many years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mattoverb Posted December 12, 2006 Members Share Posted December 12, 2006 Lemon oil or the like will probably make it darker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DFWXJER Posted December 12, 2006 Members Share Posted December 12, 2006 Lemon Oil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Burning Babies Posted December 12, 2006 Members Share Posted December 12, 2006 I think this is what you are looking for. I've heard a few people get good results. http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Finishing_supplies/Colors,_tints,_and_stains/Black_Fingerboard_Stain.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members skiscem Posted December 12, 2006 Members Share Posted December 12, 2006 Originally posted by Burning Babies I think this is what you are looking for. I've heard a few people get good results.http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Finishing_supplies/Colors,_tints,_and_stains/Black_Fingerboard_Stain.html i think thats only for ebony... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mind Riot Posted December 12, 2006 Members Share Posted December 12, 2006 Originally posted by skiscem i think thats only for ebony... No, a dye's a dye. It'll dye anything that is porous enough to let it in. A few guys on here have done rosewood boards with it or something similar, and it worked out fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pro_magnum Posted December 12, 2006 Members Share Posted December 12, 2006 only brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members racerxwannabe Posted December 12, 2006 Members Share Posted December 12, 2006 drink about 2-3 liters of a heavy stout...then drop your dacks, sit on the fretboard 'n wait works a treat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members No Soul Posted December 12, 2006 Members Share Posted December 12, 2006 lemon oil is a terrible suggestion. In the long term, it actually is drying out your fretboard, which will actually make it lighter looking, and worse yet, more prone to cracking, warping, and the like. Lemon oil should only be used to clean an extreeeeeeemly dirty fretboard. Pure mineral oil is much better as a conditioner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Professor Tom Posted December 12, 2006 Members Share Posted December 12, 2006 I luthier I know swears by Indian Ink but be careful ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members knotty Posted December 12, 2006 Members Share Posted December 12, 2006 Originally posted by No Soul lemon oil is a terrible suggestion.In the long term, it actually is drying out your fretboard, which will actually make it lighter looking, and worse yet, more prone to cracking, warping, and the like.Lemon oil should only be used to clean an extreeeeeeemly dirty fretboard.Pure mineral oil is much better as a conditioner. Quote from PRS site For the cleaning and conditioning of a rosewood fretboard, rosewood neck optioned McCarty solidbody, 513 Rosewood neck/fretboard or the neck/fretboard of your Modern Eagle model we recommend the use of a quality lemon oil. This should also clean tarnished frets as well as dirt built up on your fretboard if used with a toothbrush. After the lemon oil is applied, thoroughly wipe down all of the surfaces with a soft, clean, dry cloth and seal it with a quality furniture polish. The natural oils in your hands, over time, should seal and treat the rosewood as well[ I think I will go with PRS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members No Soul Posted December 12, 2006 Members Share Posted December 12, 2006 Originally posted by knotty Quote from PRS siteFor the cleaning and conditioning of a rosewood fretboard, rosewood neck optioned McCarty solidbody, 513 Rosewood neck/fretboard or the neck/fretboard of your Modern Eagle model we recommend the use of a quality lemon oil. This should also clean tarnished frets as well as dirt built up on your fretboard if used with a toothbrush. After the lemon oil is applied, thoroughly wipe down all of the surfaces with a soft, clean, dry cloth and seal it with a quality furniture polish. The natural oils in your hands, over time, should seal and treat the rosewood as well[I think I will go with PRS. Read it carefuly and read what we are talking about here. Im not disagreeing with that at all, as they recomend using it as a cleaner, and nothing else. Conditioning is a different story, and for that Im going to have to agree with just about every knowledgable person who deals with antiques over anybody else. To go into more detail, 99% of lemon oils (including those packaged for guitar care) contain solvents, which are great for cleaning, but once again, actually bad for the wood itself if used regularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members knotty Posted December 12, 2006 Members Share Posted December 12, 2006 I did read it carefully and even highlighted the word 'conditioning'. I cant see them being wrong, its their product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jasevenny Posted December 12, 2006 Members Share Posted December 12, 2006 Gerlitz Guitar Honey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members No Soul Posted December 12, 2006 Members Share Posted December 12, 2006 Originally posted by knotty I did read it carefully and even highlighted the word 'conditioning'.I cant see them being wrong, its their product. we are using the word for different things, but you really seem to not want to believe me. So go for it! SOAK YOUR FRETBOARD IN LEMON OIL! Hell, cut the crap and go for something with a higher content of petrolium distilates in it! If you want to take a piece of information you simply read on the internet as Gospel, more power to you. I grew up dealing with antiques worth a lot more than an indian rosewood fretboard on a PRS. And Im not sure how you qualify PRS as being infallible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members knotty Posted December 12, 2006 Members Share Posted December 12, 2006 Silly me. I should have bought the PRS and asked you how to look after it, instead of trusting the idiots who made it. You dont take being wrong very well do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members No Soul Posted December 12, 2006 Members Share Posted December 12, 2006 Originally posted by knotty You dont take being wrong very well do you? dont make me laugh, youre really making yourself look like an absolute {censored}ing moron because all you have to rely on is a paragraph. Ask anybody experienced with high end antiques, its as simple as that. And I can promise you, there is not a damn thing PRS knows about wood that the antique industry does not. Hell, you know what? Im not only in fact a PRS dealer, but I also know people at PRS.Would you like me to get ahold of them and clarify this for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members IKE Posted December 12, 2006 Members Share Posted December 12, 2006 Actually, I think you are both right to a certain extent. (Peacemaker IKE) I use lemon oil on my rosewood boards, BUT, very sparingly and only about once a year, so I guess you can say I use it as a cleaner instead of a conditioner. I have never had any problems doing this and the lemon oil does a good job of cleaning up the fretboard and giving it a great sheen. But too much excessive use can hurt, it can soak in and cause frets to lift (wood expands and contracts with use of penetrants, weather, etc.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members No Soul Posted December 12, 2006 Members Share Posted December 12, 2006 Originally posted by IKE Actually, I think you are both right to a certain extent. (Peacemaker IKE) I use lemon oil on my rosewood boards, BUT, very sparingly and only about once a year, so I guess you can say I use it as a cleaner instead of a conditioner. I have never had any problems doing this and the lemon oil does a good job of cleaning up the fretboard and giving it a great sheen. But too much excessive use can hurt, it can soak in and cause frets to lift (wood expands and contracts with use of penetrants, weather, etc.) thats what Im trying to tell this guy, but ever since he got on this forum he has had some huge stick up his ass which he seems to blame on me... whatever, I really dont care. Im here to share information, not get into stupid arguments with inexperienced people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members knotty Posted December 12, 2006 Members Share Posted December 12, 2006 Originally posted by No Soul dont make me laugh, youre really making yourself look like an absolute {censored}ing moron because all you have to rely on is a paragraph. Ask anybody experienced with high end antiques, its as simple as that. And I can promise you, there is not a damn thing PRS knows about wood that the antique industry does not. Hell, you know what? Im not only in fact a PRS dealer, but I also know people at PRS.Would you like me to get ahold of them and clarify this for you? I think there is only one person whose discussion technique makes them look like a moron, and it ain't me. I just wonder why you think I should believe you know more than the manufacturer. PS if I need a sideboard french polishing I will let you know.I assume you are also a brain surgeon, nuclear physicist and proctologist? (actually I can believe the last one) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members walfordr Posted December 12, 2006 Members Share Posted December 12, 2006 Originally posted by No Soul ...Hell, cut the crap and go for something with a higher content of petrolium distilates in it! ... Like pure mineral oil. That's about the only thing I can think of that has a higher (100%) amount of petroleum distillates than lemon oil (around 99%). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Matter-Eater Lad Posted December 12, 2006 Members Share Posted December 12, 2006 People often will write in these forums how this or that will "harm" your fretboard but no one ever has any experiences. It's all what they've heard or read. You can probably douse it in gasoline and it would likely do nothing to it. Fact is, I have an rosewood boarded neck from an old 80's el cheapo guitar that I experiment on & I've done everything to it(short of gasoline) and it is none the worse. Just be wary of anyone on these forums who is telling you DO NOT do this or that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Virgman Posted December 12, 2006 Members Share Posted December 12, 2006 Guaranteed to work. (Just kidding.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members knotty Posted December 12, 2006 Members Share Posted December 12, 2006 Virgman,,,you gassing for a PRS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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