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  • Peavey valveking vs. Windsor

    I'm thinking about upgrading to a tube amp, my max budget will be around $700-800, and have been thinking about the Peavey Windsor and Valveking. I'm into 80s metal, (Testament, Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer), but need something that could handle some modern stuff with a boost, and have a good clean channel too. I also will have to buy a cabinet within that budget. What are the Peavey Windsor and Valveking like?
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    Windsor is a single channel amp, so you'd need 2 if you need a clean channel.

    FWIW, I love my valveking. Did a preamp tube swap and am loving my tone again. And the clean channel is a huge upgrade after the 5150.

    I am very interested in the Windsor though, may end up snagging one of those before long too.
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    • #3
      Is there any way to get a good clean tone out of the windsor?
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      • #4
        I'm thinking about upgrading to a tube amp, my max budget will be around $700-800, and have been thinking about the Peavey Windsor and Valveking. I'm into 80s metal, (Testament, Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer), but need something that could handle some modern stuff with a boost, and have a good clean channel too. I also will have to buy a cabinet within that budget. What are the Peavey Windsor and Valveking like?


        I don't know how much power you need, but in that price range you could get a Classic 30 or 50. Especially used.
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        • #5
          I think someone here is selling a Windsor modded with a clean channel.
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          • #6
            Link?
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            • #7
              700 isn't going to get you a lot if you're looking for a cabinet also.
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              • #8
                Well, I'll try and get the Windsor for $350, which will leave me another $300-400 for a cab. I was thinking a Marshall 2X12 with V30s
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                • #9
                  I've owned both. I had the Windsor for a day, took it back because it was too bright with my cab, and because I couldn't get anything close to clean from it - even though I rarely play clean, when I want it I want it.

                  Bought the Valveking the next day, have been playing through it for about 6 months. This is my favorite amp of any I've owned to date - and that list includes the Peavey Classic 50, Fender Twin, Marshall TSL 602, Mesa Boogie Nomad 100, and Kustom 36 Coupe - at least those are the all-tube amps I've owned. The Valveking has good cleans and a wide range of beautiful dirty tones available. Now that I've got it dialed in, I live on the dirty channel, and get a nice slightly gritty clean by rolling off a volume pedal. That, combined with the gain boost, and a $40 Bad Monkey pedal, gives me a range of tones from clean to Velvet Revolver to Coheed and Cambria. I could easily get into the 80's metal tones with just the amp, though - I just prefer to keep my gain fairly low and boost when needed.

                  I got the amp for $499 out the door with a bit of negotiation. For $300, you could get an Avatar cab from Ebay, which is what I did - actually, got it for about $250, shipped. The Valveking 4x12 is about $400, so that'd put you a bit over your budget...The Marshall MC212 is $329 at Musicians Friend, I'm willing to bet you could negotiate lower on it at GC, I know my local GC has the cabs. Considering I actually like the tone of the Peavey cabs when demoing them in stores, another option would be the Valveking 2x12 combo, though I prefer a head/cab setup myself. Ooh, the WIndsor 412 is only $349 - that might be bargain-able to a lower price as well.

                  Anyway, to get to the point, I'd highly recommend the Valveking, and it should be fairly easy to snag a cab in your range - a used cab would be another good option...
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                  • #10
                    the windsor is a terrible amp dude, you will only be disappointed. the valveking is a much better option. Perhaps a used mesa or carvin legacy might do you a lot better.
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                    • #11
                      What did you not like about the Windsor? I was thinking of picking up a used Marshall 2x12 with V30s, would this be a good cab for the Valveking?
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                      <a href="http://s75.photobucket.com/albums/i308/pierce34celtic/HPIM0574.jpg" target="_blank">Ibanez RG2020XTB Prestige</a><br />
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                      • #12
                        I would suggest you buy an AVATAR cab!! Then find yourself a used peavey or Carvin MTS or X100.
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                        • #13
                          What did you not like about the Windsor? I was thinking of picking up a used Marshall 2x12 with V30s, would this be a good cab for the Valveking?


                          I think that'd be a great cab for the Valveking.

                          I'm assuming you're asking the other guy what he didn't like, sinve I already gave my reasons .
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                          • #14
                            Is the Valveking worth it when paired with a nice cab? Or would it be wiser to save up a little more? Can it cover both thrash and modern metal, both with good rhythm and lead tones?
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                            • #15
                              I use my VK100H with my home brew 212 and it sounds great.
                              My 212 is 14" deep, roughly fashioned after the G-flex. stupendous low end.

                              If I were to buy a 212 I'd probably go for an avatar vintage simply because you can put any combination of speakers in it that they offer, and they are more than willing to discuss your tone with you and get you what you need.
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