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  • #16
    A guitar not staying in tune has one of two things...

    1 - Malfunctioning hardware.. Take it to a tech if you can't figure it out..

    or

    2 - an incompetent player..

    Sounds to me like you need to educate yourself a bit more on WHY it won't stay in tune rather than whipping out the checkbook for another guitar (that likely won't be any better than this one once you get ahold of it...) Not trying to be insulting, just honest and save you some wasted $$$...


    Agree, In my experience some budget guitars I've had won't hold tune as long
    sitting on the stand or in the case as a better quality guitar.
    Quality of the wood maybe, not cured as well?

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    • #17
      Something with a locking bridge and nut would be as rock solid as it gets (imo). I imagine A stop bar / fixed bridge system with locking tuners would be second best.

      Of course if you have a heavy fret hand then a solid neck joint is a must if you do not want intonation hassles. For example I would not recommend SG types with a vintage neck joint if your that type of player.
      Locking tuners don't help if the guitar is strung up properly.
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      • #18
        Yep, it stays in tune great:

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        • #19
          Something with the old Ibanez EDGE. Mine will not go out of tune no matter what I do, seriously.


          +1, but you trade the stability for cumbersome string changes.
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          • #20
            none of my 6 guitars has any tuning issues whatsoever

            3 Epiphones, 2 Squiers, and a Dean

            MOST(but not all) tuning issues usually stem from strings binding in the nut - quite easily fixed.
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            • #21
              Agree, In my experience some budget guitars I've had won't hold tune as long
              sitting on the stand or in the case as a better quality guitar.
              Quality of the wood maybe, not cured as well?


              Not likely.. Most likly it's poorly strung (not enough wraps, do 3 wraps on the wound strings, 6 on the plain strings) or binding at the nut (when strings corode, it can come off and get in the nut slot.. Clean it out and put some nut sauce in there).. The odds of the wood actually moving enough to knock it COMPLETELY out of tune are nil.
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              • #22
                Well I wouldn't say it's my playing.

                I've had the same mexican strat for almost ten years and I've never been satisfied with its intonation stability. Granted, it's been set up maybe two times in that amount of time, but I feel like I'm more than ready to step up to a guitar without a bolt-on neck, and that just has an overall more solid feel. My fingers have never gotten used to the thin Fender necks, so I'm looking forward to something withe more space between the strings.

                That said, I go to GC and Sam Ash now and then looking at new axes, and a lot of the budget models seem to go out of tune fairly quickly, while the high end stuff stays in tune much better. So I know you get what you pay for, but I was hoping I could finally take that step up to a Gibson or PRS (even if it's an SE). I'm just the kind of guy who only needs one electric guitar (and can only afford one), so I want it to be the best I can afford.

                Know what I mean?

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                • #23
                  I believe that the sense that a guitar is not staying in tune is, sometimes, actually a guitar that is not intonated well.
                  For example: someone plays something in the first or second position, bends some notes in the process, moves to a higher position, plays a chord that sounds sharp, and thinks that the guitar went out of tune. However, the guitar didn't go out of tune; it was not in tune up and down the board in the beginning.

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                  • #24
                    I just read DammitJanet's most recent post, and it might be that the 10-year-old Strat has fret wear that is creating some intonation problems.

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                    • #25
                      I just read DammitJanet's most recent post, and it might be that the 10-year-old Strat has fret wear that is creating some intonation problems.



                      or weak springs.... or all sorts of things that can happen if you dont set your guitars up periodically...
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                      • #26
                        Intonation stability? Strat aren't prone to losing the intonation once it's set. Floyds can, because the saddle clamp screws can slip, but strats don't work like that. It's virtually impossible for the intonation to change at the bringe unless you apply a screwdriver to it. Of course, changing strings (brand, gauge) will screw with your intonation, but you knew that... Right?
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                        • #27
                          Intonation stability? Strat aren't prone to losing the intonation once it's set. Floyds can, because the saddle clamp screws can slip, but strats don't work like that. It's virtually impossible for the intonation to change at the bringe unless you apply a screwdriver to it. Of course, changing strings (brand, gauge) will screw with your intonation, but you knew that... Right?


                          Actually, I don't play nearly as much guitar as most people here, so no, I didn't know that. The thing is that I'm dissatisfied with my skill despite the years I've been playing, so I want to go back to guitar with a more serious attitude towards pratice and learning. And come to think of it, I've hardly ever changed strings and used the exact same model/brand afterwards.

                          I'm still sure that I want to sell my Strat and putting the money toward a new axe, despite loving the strat tone. Although I've never been able to get a SRV, Prince, or David Gilmour sound from mine.

                          So it sounds like the tuning issue will be less of an issue as long as I get the guitar set up properly. That said, it's time to focus on tone. I don't play much heavy rock any more, and I'm kind of partial to P-90 tones. My new band plays sort of new wavey electro/surf stuff (B-52's, New Order, Pixies) and I'm not sure what's going to suit that kind of music the best. Someone suggested the DiPinto Galaxies that Los Straitjackets use.
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                          • #28
                            So it sounds like the tuning issue will be less of an issue as long as I get the guitar set up properly. That said, it's time to focus on tone. I don't play much heavy rock any more, and I'm kind of partial to P-90 tones. My new band plays sort of new wavey electro/surf stuff (B-52's, New Order, Pixies) and I'm not sure what's going to suit that kind of music the best.


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                            • #29
                              Intonation stability? Strat aren't prone to losing the intonation once it's set. Floyds can, because the saddle clamp screws can slip, but strats don't work like that. It's virtually impossible for the intonation to change at the bringe unless you apply a screwdriver to it. Of course, changing strings (brand, gauge) will screw with your intonation, but you knew that... Right?


                              The neck relief could have changed
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                              • #30
                                Not likely.. Most likly it's poorly strung (not enough wraps, do 3 wraps on the wound strings, 6 on the plain strings) or binding at the nut (when strings corode, it can come off and get in the nut slot.. Clean it out and put some nut sauce in there).. The odds of the wood actually moving enough to knock it COMPLETELY out of tune are nil.


                                I've been stringing my guitars like this for years.
                                http://www.fretnotguitarrepair.com/stringing.htm
                                I wasn't meaning COMPLETELY out of tune just slightly out.
                                I have a LP with klusons and two Carvin's with sperzels that can sit for weeks unplayed and still be perfectly in tune.
                                Not so with many budget guitars I've had even after mods and extensive setups.

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