Members Armchair Bronco Posted March 1, 2008 Members Share Posted March 1, 2008 The title pretty much says it all. I've tried to learn lots of different scales, but the pentatonic minor scale is the only one that I can play forwards, backwards, sideways and upside down in my sleep and use as the basis for solos. What was the next scale that you mastered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mrbrown49 Posted March 1, 2008 Members Share Posted March 1, 2008 Major, minor. Now I don't really think in terms of scales or where I am on the fret board. It just sort of happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members adlo76 Posted March 1, 2008 Members Share Posted March 1, 2008 major pentatonic, natural minor and major, harmonic minor maybe.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Armchair Bronco Posted March 1, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 1, 2008 Major, minor. Now I don't really think in terms of scales or where I am on the fret board. It just sort of happens. Well, then you need to think WAY, WAY back to when you had been playing for less than a year or two. At some point, all of us have had to learn scales. I'm just trying to figure out what to master next. There are lots of bizarre scales to choose from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mrbrown49 Posted March 1, 2008 Members Share Posted March 1, 2008 I would say get the full major and minors down, then harmonic minor and modes. Also make sure you learn them in every position. Its a great fret board exercise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mattburnside Posted March 1, 2008 Members Share Posted March 1, 2008 Actually the next thing I moved on to was mixing the pentatonic major and minor based on the chord changes. Thanks, Clapton. Then incorporating passing tones into both. Thanks, Beck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members balthazarr Posted March 1, 2008 Members Share Posted March 1, 2008 Major, minor. Now I don't really think in terms of scales or where I am on the fret board. It just sort of happens. I'm like that when I'm noodling around. I try to incorporate diminished, chromatic, arpeggios or parts of etc. It really stretches the ear (sounds like {censored}), but it makes for interesting sounds and I even come up with some usable licks-that I forget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Armchair Bronco Posted March 1, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 1, 2008 I'm like that when I'm noodling around. I try to incorporate diminished, chromatic, arpeggios or parts of etc. It really stretches the ear (sounds like {censored}), but it makes for interesting sounds and I even come up with some usable licks-that I forget. Sounds like you're a perfect candidate for buying a BOSS RC-2 loop station. Someone said it's like his little musical notepad for jotting down cool riffs and licks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ferdinandstrat Posted March 1, 2008 Members Share Posted March 1, 2008 Minor I think... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members balthazarr Posted March 1, 2008 Members Share Posted March 1, 2008 Sounds like you're a perfect candidate for buying a BOSS RC-2 loop station. Someone said it's like his little musical notepad for jotting down cool riffs and licks. I should, but I bought a modeler...which I'm not using bc I can't get around to plugging my 'lectric in. I'm hoping that will change once I get my house rearranged and the BH5H stack shows up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Der Induktionator Posted March 1, 2008 Members Share Posted March 1, 2008 Every so often I play around with the equal spaced scales The patterns on the fretboard are pretty easy to remember All whole steps: B C# D# F G A B etc. All minor thirds: B D F G# B etc. All major thirds: C E G# C etc. All sound weird because they have no clear start or end point since they lack the asymmetry of the usual natural major, minor, pentatonic, harmonic minor, etc. but interesting for some tension. The sound a bit like the sounds from those first BASIC programs on Apple IIe computers from 1980s highschool "programming" classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Volitan Posted March 1, 2008 Members Share Posted March 1, 2008 I don't know. I learned it them in extended position, and I've been messing around with a major-sounding one that I learned form Prince, so that. But as for names, I just can't really say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members docjeffrey Posted March 1, 2008 Members Share Posted March 1, 2008 What scale(s) did you master after the pentatonic minor? You mean there's another scale? You wouldn't know it by listening to 90% of barroom guitarists (that would include me, by the way). I have been forcing myself to play different scales lately while I am practicing, but when I'm playing live and a guitar break comes around, I resort back to what I know best most of the time. Armchair Bronco is right. The Loop Station is perfect for learning new scales and techniques. I like to record a simple 4/4 beat with a single chord (E7, for example) at 120 BPM. Then I spend an hour or two soloing over that single chord with the sole intention of making it interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dudleyjackson Posted March 1, 2008 Members Share Posted March 1, 2008 The minor scale, you can then just drop it 3 frets to make the appropriate major scale. [thinking like a newish guitarist] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Virgman Posted March 1, 2008 Members Share Posted March 1, 2008 Major. But I haven't "mastered" anything. Agreeing with DocJeff. 9 times out of 10 I use the pentatonic scale with some major scale and chromatic notes thrown in. Unless I play jazz. Then I use the major scale with chromatic notes thrown in. So learn the major scale next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jds22 Posted March 1, 2008 Members Share Posted March 1, 2008 Other scales?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Burgess Posted March 1, 2008 Members Share Posted March 1, 2008 Pentatonic major. I recall it being a real eye opener realizing I could use major pentatonic in places I had been using minor pentatonic before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Minitruth Posted March 1, 2008 Members Share Posted March 1, 2008 I learned Majors and natural minors first. Pents came later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jhall Posted March 1, 2008 Members Share Posted March 1, 2008 The Bathroom scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bysler Posted March 1, 2008 Members Share Posted March 1, 2008 I know only the major scale, but the pattern is the same of the minor and all the modes also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarcapo Posted March 1, 2008 Members Share Posted March 1, 2008 I just learned the extra notes that made a pentatonic minor scale turn into a major scale. Then I just fit the extra notes into solos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mister natural Posted March 1, 2008 Members Share Posted March 1, 2008 My teacher (GenNation on this site) really pounded the dorian into me. I think it's also called harmonic minor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LARRY L Posted March 1, 2008 Members Share Posted March 1, 2008 The harmonic minor is a great scale to know, you can flow into it when in a minor scale to add that extra zing to a solo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members book_of_lies777 Posted March 1, 2008 Members Share Posted March 1, 2008 the blues scale... it's just one more note than pentatonicand that's all the scales I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members warriorpoet Posted March 1, 2008 Members Share Posted March 1, 2008 The title pretty much says it all.I've tried to learn lots of different scales, but the pentatonic minor scale is the only one that I can play forwards, backwards, sideways and upside down in my sleep and use as the basis for solos.What was the next scale that you mastered?The next three forms of Pent. m (including 1 form of the "blues" Pent.), then Pent. M, then M (I'm up to 3 of those), 2 m scale forms... ...only to realize most jazz guys outline chords with their improv most of the time, rather than using a scale form. Here's how it works: learn your chords + extensions, then run up the form of the chord (i.e. GM would be E (3), A (3-5), D (3-5), G (3-4), B (3), e (3)). This can lead to some really cool runs as you move form one chord to another (use GM (fret 3)- am7 (fret 5)- D7 (fret 5) - GM (open) to start with). Then learn your modes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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