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    I see some ludicrously fast players (the speed metal kind) play figures using only three fretting fingers. Yngwie, for instance. Does this carry an advantage to the four-finger positions I've been taught?

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    I see some ludicrously fast players (the speed metal kind) play figures using only three fretting fingers. Yngwie, for instance. Does this carry an advantage to the four-finger positions I've been taught?


    It has more to do with playing three-note-per-string scales rather than which fingers you use. Do what you feel most comfortable with, but the 3 nps scales are a shredders' standard.
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    • #3
      It has more to do with playing three-note-per-string scales rather than which fingers you use. Do what you feel most comfortable with, but the 3 nps scales are a shredders' standard.


      I know about 3nps. I'm simply wondering if there's an ergonomical advantage to eliminating the pinky.

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        I know about 3nps. I'm simply wondering if there's an ergonomical advantage to eliminating the pinky.


        No, there isn't. Instead, work on getting your pinky as strong as your other fingers.
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          I've never heard any player worth a damn recommend not using the pinky.

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            most of the shredders I know use their pinky depending on if its a half or whole step to the next note. Its a lot easier to make a whole step stretch with you pinky than your ring finger.

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              I play a lot of 3nps stuff. I use my pinky all the time.

              I 'spose I should add I don't consider myself to be ultra-fast either.
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              • #8
                No, there isn't. Instead, work on getting your pinky as strong as your other fingers.


                I've been practising that for years, and I don't feel like that's what's holding me back, rather my right hand. For steady, controlled alternate picking, I max out at around 130bpm sixteenths. I'm wondering why these ultra-fast pickers don't use the pinky much.

                How fast can you pick?

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                • #9
                  They use it when necessary, but normally they just use whatever feels natural, whether that includes the pinky or not. Kee Marcello is a monster picker, and he doesn't use the pinky all that much:



                  Paul Gilbert is another monster picker, and he uses the pinky all the time:

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                  • #10
                    I've been practising that for years, and I don't feel like that's what's holding me back, rather my right hand. For steady, controlled alternate picking, I max out at around 130bpm sixteenths. I'm wondering why these ultra-fast pickers don't use the pinky much.

                    How fast can you pick?


                    Uh, I don't know. My picking technique is like my dick. I've never heard any complaints and it seems to get the job done, so I don't worry about measurements.
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                    • #11
                      I've never heard any player worth a damn recommend not using the pinky.


                      I'm pretty sure that Keef never uses his and that (at least back in the day) Clapton only played with 3.
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                      • #12
                        I'm pretty sure that Keef never uses his and that (at least back in the day) Clapton only played with 3.


                        What's your point?

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                        • #13
                          Uh, I don't know. My picking technique is like my dick. I've never heard any complaints and it seems to get the job done, so I don't worry about measurements.


                          Can you pick fast scale runs?

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                            My picking technique is like my dick. I've never heard any complaints and it seems to get the job done, so I don't worry about measurements.


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                            • #15
                              But can you pick fast scale runs?


                              Yeah, pretty fast. I do my fastest stuff in the pentatonic box, but I can get around on the three-notes-per-string stuff pretty quickly. Something like the speed of the intro to "Cliffs of Dover" is probably as fast as I can play, I guess.

                              I hold the pick between the tip of my middle finger and my thumb, at roughly a 45 degree angle to the string. I don't "choke up" on the pick a lot, but when I'm picking as fast as I can, the tip is barely below the string.
                              Originally Posted by korky1958


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