Members orbm1 Posted June 13, 2009 Members Share Posted June 13, 2009 Ok... It may be a dumb question but I do not know the answer and I cannot find it anywhere... here it is: what is the heirarchy with Gibson Les Pauls? Maybe: Studio Classic Traditional Standard Supreme Custom is that alright? my friend tells me that the top of the line of the Gibson LP are the Supremes, not the customs, and that traditional and classics are "better" than standards... So, I do not know.... anybody... Thanks in advance ps. I am asking because my friend has a beautiful Supreme and he says that his is the top of the chain in LPs, but I am telling that the top of the chain are the Customs.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ArKay Posted June 13, 2009 Members Share Posted June 13, 2009 I would place the Standard after the Studio, but I'm no Gibson expert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members richardson Posted June 13, 2009 Members Share Posted June 13, 2009 i always thought that it went supreme > custom although i like the custom a lot better. i wouldn't trade mine for anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Eddie Posted June 13, 2009 Members Share Posted June 13, 2009 ...and that traditional and classics are "better" than standards... Indeed better should be in quotes.I remember playing a Standard, Custom, and Studio Plus. The Studio Plus was the nicest in terms of sound and feel, and it was the cheapest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chairborne Posted June 13, 2009 Members Share Posted June 13, 2009 ps. I am asking because my friend has a beautiful Supreme and he says that his is the top of the chain in LPs, but I am telling that the top of the chain are the Customs.... I don't like that ugly crap they put on Supreme headstocks. Where do all the R-4s, R-8s and so forth fall in this analysis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members orbm1 Posted June 13, 2009 Author Members Share Posted June 13, 2009 Indeed better should be in quotes. I remember playing a Standard, Custom, and Studio Plus. The Studio Plus was the nicest in terms of sound and feel, and it was the cheapest. Agree... but still, the question remains... Is there a hierarchy? if supremes are "better", why customs come with COA? I do not know... (inside me, I want customs to be the top of the line, because I have one!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chairborne Posted June 13, 2009 Members Share Posted June 13, 2009 Also, you left off the Special and Junior, workingman guitars that RAWK without all that bloody awful flash bling-bling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members orbm1 Posted June 13, 2009 Author Members Share Posted June 13, 2009 Also, you left off the Special and Junior, workingman guitars that RAWK without all that bloody awful flash bling-bling. Well, where would you put them in the list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jhorne Posted June 13, 2009 Members Share Posted June 13, 2009 Agree... but still, the question remains... Is there a hierarchy? if supremes are "better", why customs come with COA? I do not know... (inside me, I want customs to be the top of the line, because I have one! ) Any Custom Shop Gibson should come with a COA regardless of whether it is 'better' than a non-Custom Shop Gibson or not. If the Supreme was not a Custom Shop model, then it won't come with a COA. Up until about 2003 the Customs were standard production models that were not made in the Custom Shop and had no COA. As to whether the Custom or Supreme is 'better', I'd say that is personal preference more than anything else... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members orbm1 Posted June 13, 2009 Author Members Share Posted June 13, 2009 Ok, I will like to clarify something... I am not trying to discuss which guitar is better... I totally understand that is a personal preference... What I am trying to understand is which guitar is top of the line... I know that there are RI and VOS, BUT, if we understand why the melody makers are cheaper than the studio, and studio Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mesa/Kramer Posted June 13, 2009 Members Share Posted June 13, 2009 SpecialFadedStudioClassicTraditionalStandardSupremeCustomClass 5Reissues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members orbm1 Posted June 13, 2009 Author Members Share Posted June 13, 2009 SpecialFadedStudioClassicTraditionalStandardSupremeCustomClass 5Reissues Pretty nice!!! which one are the class 5? where did you get this info? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PlectrumPete Posted June 13, 2009 Members Share Posted June 13, 2009 I have never seen a more pointless exercise in my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jkater Posted June 13, 2009 Members Share Posted June 13, 2009 You might as well simply look at the list price and see what that says (whether or not it really means anything). What would be even more interesting would to place all kinds of models, sig LP's, etc. and see what people think. As to why a model is priced the way it is, that's no simple thing to figure out. The signatures, for example, probably include the cost of the endorsement which is worth nothing when you think of it. My Gary Moore sig LP was roughly the same price as a standard when it came out. And it is basically a standard with no binding either on neck or body. That should have been a saving for the buyer but it wasn't. The saving was for Gibson. Or did Gary Moore get something for his name on the trussrod cover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GCDEF Posted June 13, 2009 Members Share Posted June 13, 2009 Ok... It may be a dumb question but I do not know the answer and I cannot find it anywhere... here it is: what is the heirarchy with Gibson Les Pauls? Maybe: Studio Classic Traditional Standard Supreme Custom is that alright? my friend tells me that the top of the line of the Gibson LP are the Supremes, not the customs, and that traditional and classics are "better" than standards... So, I do not know.... anybody... Thanks in advance ps. I am asking because my friend has a beautiful Supreme and he says that his is the top of the chain in LPs, but I am telling that the top of the chain are the Customs.... That may be the ranking by price, but with the exception of the studio, they're pretty much different flavors of the same thing. I wouldn't say price is an indication of quality though. Of all those I think the Traditional is the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members flummox Posted June 13, 2009 Members Share Posted June 13, 2009 They're all great, if you can find a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Stspider Posted June 13, 2009 Members Share Posted June 13, 2009 Customs are supposedly better than Supreme and the rest of the Gibson USA division, because they're built in the Custom Shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GCDEF Posted June 13, 2009 Members Share Posted June 13, 2009 Customs are supposedly better than Supreme and the rest of the Gibson USA division, because they're built in the Custom Shop. That doesn't necessarily make them better, only more expensive. I didn't like the Custom I had all that much. Again, it's another variation. Different inlays, more elaborate binding, arguably inferior pickups, ebony board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bryvincent Posted June 13, 2009 Members Share Posted June 13, 2009 Classic=Traditional. not the same guitar but, the Traditional took the place of the Classic which is below the Standard after it was discontinued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Phade21 Posted June 13, 2009 Members Share Posted June 13, 2009 I want to get a nice Les Paul (wish the quality was what it used to be)...I wish I could get this green finish here: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WoodenDuckMaker Posted June 13, 2009 Members Share Posted June 13, 2009 there's also "standard plus" and "standard premium" but those arent baseline models, just variations on the standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ihavenofish Posted June 13, 2009 Members Share Posted June 13, 2009 Classic=Traditional. not the same guitar but, the Traditional took the place of the Classic which is below the Standard after it was discontinued. for carved top LP's bfg (gone)studioclassic (gone)traditionalstandarddark fire2008 standardclassic custom (gone)supreme the custom shop is separate line really. an off the shelf custom is priced above the supreme, but doesnt have higher end features. theres also variations of the models listed - like the robot studios which cost more than a standard but are not "better". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bryvincent Posted June 13, 2009 Members Share Posted June 13, 2009 for carved top LP'sbfg (gone)studioclassic (gone)traditionalstandarddark fire2008 standardclassic custom (gone)supremethe custom shop is separate line really. an off the shelf custom is priced above the supreme, but doesnt have higher end features.theres also variations of the models listed - like the robot studios which cost more than a standard but are not "better". the older standard is gone too replaced by the 2008-spec Standard.there was also the Goddess which didn't last long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members phil47uk Posted June 13, 2009 Members Share Posted June 13, 2009 They don't get much better than this.. 1960 Historic. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ihavenofish Posted June 13, 2009 Members Share Posted June 13, 2009 the older standard is gone too replaced by the 2008-spec Standard. still listed on gibsons site. the traditional is NOT the classic though. the tradition is an "old" style non chambered standard by the description. the classic was a lower end guitar that was also chambered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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