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  • Why are monitors so darn expensive?

    I can get a really fancy guitar amplifier, with a slew of digital effects, a carefully voiced speaker, all kinds of tube emulation junk, etc for about a hundred bucks. But I play through a ToneLab LE nowadays, and I'd prefer to switch from an amp to something with a mostly flat response and a better speaker.

    Apparently that's not so easy. Am I missing something? Keyboard amps, studio monitors, etc -- all crazy expensive. I know a lot of this stuff is intended for studio use and is very high end, but isn't there anything with a basic flat and full-range speaker that will be a step up from my stupid Spider III without costing me double?

  • #2
    Most studio monitors are self-amplified, adding to their cost.

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    • #3
      I bought these used at Maars Music for 150.00.

      I DID get lucky though. They are selling used on ebay for 4 to 7 hundred dollars. The repalcement components alone would cost close to five hundred dollars new, and that is without cabs.


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      • #4
        Most studio monitors are self-amplified, adding to their cost.
        Yeah, but I don't need a 50W stage unit or something. Maybe 20W would be fine, basically not that different from a typical small guitar amp. There's a few inexpensive keyboard amps, but reviews aren't flattering. I would get a power amp and an unpowered monitor, except that stand-alone poweramps are usually large rack units that put out like ten billion watts max RMS.

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        • #5
          look for something used.
          I picked up my Fender Passport P250 for $110 dollars on craigslist. It's been great my only complaint is that I wish it had a bit more low end grunt.

          That or something like the MAudio BX8 or BX8a both can be had for less than 200 dollars on the used market.

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          • #6

            That or something like the MAudio BX8 or BX8a both can be had for less than 200 dollars on the used market.


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            • #7
              http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=248-460

              http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=295-305

              http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=275-075

              http://www.parts-express.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=302-710&ctab=1#Tabs

              http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=091-1140

              roughly $280 for a little amp and everything you need to make a good pair of monitors...

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              • #8
                They are pretty sophisticated they need to duplicate the music accurately and need to be tuned as a pair.

                I like my behringer truth they sound good but i think I need to isolate them, they are a little bassy. And loud, they work for a small practice PA
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                • #9
                  http://www.fractalaudio.com/products-at-reactor.html

                  All you need if you're running a Tonelab.

                  I think Warriorpoet has one, likes it a lot IIRC.
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                  • #10
                    I mostly play through a DRRI or an AC15 these days but when I ran my Tonelab, I ran it into the FX return of a Peavey Prowler tube amp with an upgraded speaker. I got a lot better results running into the FX return than into the front end of the amp. It just felt like a more cohesive unit. I think I have less than $200 in the amp and the upgraded speaker.

                    I've always found that if I run a modeler into speakers and monitors, they sound like you're listening to a CD and you lose the visceral impact that you get running into either a guitar/keyboard amp or a PA.
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                    • #11
                      There's a set in the spam thread now...
                      I know, but my budget is really closer to one hundred, not two...plus I'd prefer a single speaker unit for convenience reasons.

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                      • #12
                        This isn't me, but this guy has listed these things about 20 times on my local craigslist. Don't know if he's willing to shop, but they've been on here FOREVER!

                        Maybe you can talk him down another $50.

                        http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/msg/1383067755.html
                        Originally Posted by Doctor Morbius:

                        "When it comes to gear vs talent I'll be the first to admit that I sit in the Mayor's seat in Poserville."

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                        • #13
                          I know, but my budget is really closer to one hundred, not two...plus I'd prefer a single speaker unit for convenience reasons.


                          so go to www.partsexpress.com or www.madisound.com or and buy you some full range drivers,a pair of cabinets,and a pair of crossovers and build some.PE has everything from dayton audio to eminence to peerless...madisound has stuff from vifa,silver flute,seas...too much stuff yo list realy.and a little unkown fact to most people,most speaker companies use oem drivers,even the big name companies.edesignaudio.com will custom build them for you with a 10 year warranty and some of the best customer service in the biz...just my $00.02...at any rate,$100 ain't gonna' get you much unless you buy raw drivers and MDF to construct your own cab(s)...

                          Damon
                          GUITARS:
                          Fender MIM Standard Strat
                          Hand Made SG Replica
                          Epiphone DOT Studio
                          Westbury Standard
                          Cort X-5
                          New Dawn Signature Prototype
                          Frankentele "The Buddy Caster"
                          Home Made LP copy "The Swamp Ass"
                          AMPS:
                          Crate VC3112
                          Fender Mustang II

                          Proud Rose Pickups and Rose Petal Effects user

                          My Good Deals

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                          • #14
                            Hrm. How about this then -- what's going to be an inexpensive guitar amp with an FX Return jack, so that I can just go straight to poweramp? Something that's a 1x10 or 1x12 for a decent sound, I should think...

                            [EDIT] Hey, stereo/MP3 inputs are the same thing as an FX Return jack, aren't they? I bet that will work if I can just find an amp with a decent speaker...and of course the Kustom 12 Gauge doesn't have that input

                            [EDIT again] Oooh, A Flexwave ought to do the trick, right?

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                            • #15
                              I know, but my budget is really closer to one hundred, not two...plus I'd prefer a single speaker unit for convenience reasons.


                              The Tech 21 Power Engine was created just for this purpose, but it's unlikely you'll find one for less than $200.

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