Members Promit Posted September 20, 2009 Members Share Posted September 20, 2009 I can get a really fancy guitar amplifier, with a slew of digital effects, a carefully voiced speaker, all kinds of tube emulation junk, etc for about a hundred bucks. But I play through a ToneLab LE nowadays, and I'd prefer to switch from an amp to something with a mostly flat response and a better speaker. Apparently that's not so easy. Am I missing something? Keyboard amps, studio monitors, etc -- all crazy expensive. I know a lot of this stuff is intended for studio use and is very high end, but isn't there anything with a basic flat and full-range speaker that will be a step up from my stupid Spider III without costing me double? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vintage55 Posted September 20, 2009 Members Share Posted September 20, 2009 Most studio monitors are self-amplified, adding to their cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaveAronow Posted September 20, 2009 Members Share Posted September 20, 2009 I bought these used at Maars Music for 150.00. I DID get lucky though. They are selling used on ebay for 4 to 7 hundred dollars. The repalcement components alone would cost close to five hundred dollars new, and that is without cabs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Promit Posted September 20, 2009 Author Members Share Posted September 20, 2009 Most studio monitors are self-amplified, adding to their cost.Yeah, but I don't need a 50W stage unit or something. Maybe 20W would be fine, basically not that different from a typical small guitar amp. There's a few inexpensive keyboard amps, but reviews aren't flattering. I would get a power amp and an unpowered monitor, except that stand-alone poweramps are usually large rack units that put out like ten billion watts max RMS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pixelchemist Posted September 20, 2009 Members Share Posted September 20, 2009 look for something used. I picked up my Fender Passport P250 for $110 dollars on craigslist. It's been great my only complaint is that I wish it had a bit more low end grunt. That or something like the MAudio BX8 or BX8a both can be had for less than 200 dollars on the used market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mazi Bee Posted September 20, 2009 Members Share Posted September 20, 2009 That or something like the MAudio BX8 or BX8a both can be had for less than 200 dollars on the used market. There's a set in the spam thread now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members diceman1000 Posted September 20, 2009 Members Share Posted September 20, 2009 http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=248-460 http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=295-305 http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=275-075 http://www.parts-express.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=302-710&ctab=1#Tabs http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=091-1140 roughly $280 for a little amp and everything you need to make a good pair of monitors... Damon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members benzem Posted September 20, 2009 Members Share Posted September 20, 2009 They are pretty sophisticated they need to duplicate the music accurately and need to be tuned as a pair. I like my behringer truth they sound good but i think I need to isolate them, they are a little bassy. And loud, they work for a small practice PA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sylvesterlowery Posted September 20, 2009 Members Share Posted September 20, 2009 http://www.fractalaudio.com/products-at-reactor.html All you need if you're running a Tonelab. I think Warriorpoet has one, likes it a lot IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cratz2 Posted September 20, 2009 Members Share Posted September 20, 2009 I mostly play through a DRRI or an AC15 these days but when I ran my Tonelab, I ran it into the FX return of a Peavey Prowler tube amp with an upgraded speaker. I got a lot better results running into the FX return than into the front end of the amp. It just felt like a more cohesive unit. I think I have less than $200 in the amp and the upgraded speaker. I've always found that if I run a modeler into speakers and monitors, they sound like you're listening to a CD and you lose the visceral impact that you get running into either a guitar/keyboard amp or a PA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Promit Posted September 20, 2009 Author Members Share Posted September 20, 2009 There's a set in the spam thread now... I know, but my budget is really closer to one hundred, not two...plus I'd prefer a single speaker unit for convenience reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cratz2 Posted September 20, 2009 Members Share Posted September 20, 2009 This isn't me, but this guy has listed these things about 20 times on my local craigslist. Don't know if he's willing to shop, but they've been on here FOREVER! Maybe you can talk him down another $50. http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/msg/1383067755.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members diceman1000 Posted September 20, 2009 Members Share Posted September 20, 2009 I know, but my budget is really closer to one hundred, not two...plus I'd prefer a single speaker unit for convenience reasons. so go to www.partsexpress.com or www.madisound.com or and buy you some full range drivers,a pair of cabinets,and a pair of crossovers and build some.PE has everything from dayton audio to eminence to peerless...madisound has stuff from vifa,silver flute,seas...too much stuff yo list realy.and a little unkown fact to most people,most speaker companies use oem drivers,even the big name companies.edesignaudio.com will custom build them for you with a 10 year warranty and some of the best customer service in the biz...just my $00.02...at any rate,$100 ain't gonna' get you much unless you buy raw drivers and MDF to construct your own cab(s)... Damon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Promit Posted September 21, 2009 Author Members Share Posted September 21, 2009 Hrm. How about this then -- what's going to be an inexpensive guitar amp with an FX Return jack, so that I can just go straight to poweramp? Something that's a 1x10 or 1x12 for a decent sound, I should think... [EDIT] Hey, stereo/MP3 inputs are the same thing as an FX Return jack, aren't they? I bet that will work if I can just find an amp with a decent speaker...and of course the Kustom 12 Gauge doesn't have that input [EDIT again] Oooh, A Flexwave ought to do the trick, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members unworthy Posted September 21, 2009 Members Share Posted September 21, 2009 I know, but my budget is really closer to one hundred, not two...plus I'd prefer a single speaker unit for convenience reasons. The Tech 21 Power Engine was created just for this purpose, but it's unlikely you'll find one for less than $200. D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members diceman1000 Posted September 21, 2009 Members Share Posted September 21, 2009 here you go buddy... 25 Watt, 2-channel amp drives a 10" speaker. Portable and affordable guitar amp is louder than the average practice amp making it perfect for smaller gigs. 25W 10" speaker 2 channels (normal and drive) Footswitchable reverb Headphone jack Aux RCA input Silver grille cloth Skirted knobs Controls include treble, mid, bass, volume, gain, and drive 17"W x 15-1/2"H x 8-1/2"D 25 lbs. Fender 25R Frontman Series II Guitar Combo You don't have to spend a lot of money to get an affordable, durable and toneful amp. That's why we at Fender created the Frontman Series of amplifiers! A number of models to choose from, each offering an array of different features. Frontman Amplifiers have everything you need to blow the windows out of your bedroom or practice hall. Unlike other inexpensive "jobber" amps, (which can be sourced from any number of off-shore mass manufacturers) these bantam weight tone-buddies were conceived and are built by Fender's in house Tone-Team with same quality components and attention to detail that goes into every amp Fender makes. Features: Dual Selectable Channels (Normal and Drive), Remote Channel Switching, Three-band EQ, Genuine Fender Reverb, Headphone and Extension Speaker Jacks, Push Button Distortion, Solid Jointed Cabinets, Expanded Metal Grilles Order today with the no-risk assurance of our Total Satisfaction and Low Price Guarantees! linky... http://www.music123.com/Fender-25R-Frontman-Series-II-Guitar-Combo-480669-i1145385.Music123 RCA aux in should work shouldn't it?you can get RCA to 1/4" adapters if not...actualy,i've got a pair laying around somewhere... Damon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members V-Type Posted September 21, 2009 Members Share Posted September 21, 2009 The Tonelabs and Pods sound great through those Tech 21 power engine cabs They are essentially made for the modeler amps but can do the modeler pedals just as well.Ive played a all tube loaded Atomic Amp 1x12 with a Pod Xt running as the preamp(vox's work also) and the tones were Very impressive. These are a bit more expensive though.There is also a few other mfgs out there that make these "power engine" type of guitar amps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mistersully Posted September 21, 2009 Members Share Posted September 21, 2009 I bought these used at Maars Music for 150.00. I DID get lucky though. They are selling used on ebay for 4 to 7 hundred dollars. The repalcement components alone would cost close to five hundred dollars new, and that is without cabs. classics great price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cratz2 Posted September 21, 2009 Members Share Posted September 21, 2009 I haven't tried my Tonelab through anything smaller than a 40W 1x12, but I think I'd lean towards a used Peavey something and put a Celestion/Eminence/Warehouse Speakers/Weber upgraded celestion type if you plan on playing with much gain or a Fender solid state of some sort if you mostly play clean or with low gain. Most if the Fenders come with decent sounding speakers for clean, or replace it with something on down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tedmich Posted September 21, 2009 Members Share Posted September 21, 2009 cause they're cool (stereo!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members diceman1000 Posted September 21, 2009 Members Share Posted September 21, 2009 cause they're cool (stereo!) this dude only wants to spend $100...i'd say that dynaudio is WAY out of his budget... Damon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mondaymonkey Posted September 21, 2009 Members Share Posted September 21, 2009 your all nuts Buy a Tech21 Power Engine if your into amping your ToneLab. I do it, and I'm not the only one who is impressed. Top quality build, perfect sound reproduction, and rock solid. 300 bucks. (bought mine nearly new for 125... ) 60 Watts SS through a 12" Celestion 70/80. (Has a 3 band Cut/Boost EQ.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Promit Posted September 21, 2009 Author Members Share Posted September 21, 2009 your all nuts Buy a Tech21 Power Engine if your into amping your ToneLab. I do it, and I'm not the only one who is impressed. Top quality build, perfect sound reproduction, and rock solid. 300 bucks. (bought mine nearly new for 125... ) 60 Watts SS through a 12" Celestion 70/80. (Has a 3 band Cut/Boost EQ.) 125?! I would be on top of that in a second if I had the chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BoredGuitarist7 Posted September 21, 2009 Members Share Posted September 21, 2009 Roland Cube and use the line in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wax4213 Posted September 21, 2009 Members Share Posted September 21, 2009 Roland Cube and use the line in? Tried it with my Cube 30 and Tonelab LE. A Cube is about as far from a FRFR speaker as you can get. It sounds terrible. I had better luck running into the clean channel so I could use the Cube's EQ as well as the Tonelab's, but it just doesn't sound very good no matter what I do. I'm satisfied with my tones through nice headphones which leads me to believe a decent monitor would be the best amplification method. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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