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John Mayer Strat vs Eric Clapton Strat

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  • John Mayer Strat vs Eric Clapton Strat

    All feeling about the artists aside, these are two very nice guitars.

    On one hand, the Mayer give a big c-shape neck with the "Big Dipper" pickups, and other other other hand with the Clapton you get VN's with the TBX tone circuit and the mid range boost.


    What do you guys think between the two?
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    Two totally different animals.

    Mayer:
    The Fat C is more like a Tele neck. Pretty subtle change from a regular C.
    The Big Dipper pickups are very scooped, vintage-sounding, and have a fat compressed attack to them. (Overwound V60s cop this sound very well, BTW)
    The lack of truss rod cover is ballsy and appealing, and the trem is not blocked.

    Eric Clapton
    The Soft V bugs me. I don't like the feel personally, and Eric's own personal guitar is a hard V, but this is a challenge to play, so Fender toned it down for the masses. Maple fretboard vs. Rosewood.
    Vintage Noiseless pickups are pretty good but lack the sparkle of real strat pickups
    The Mid boost is the opposite of the Mayer sound and was requested by Clapton because he wanted his guitar to sound more like it had humbuckers. And that makes sense. . . because after all Clapton's best work was on Gibson.

    Both great guitars, and both great guitarists IMO.

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    • #3
      I don't think either of them have features you'll really notice more than the sound of a normal MIA Strat

      Its not like its a swiss army knife or a car, at the end of the day they're still strats. You can't really look at them as having extra "features" if you get what I'm saying.

      I guess I don't really see how you can improve a strat
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      • #4
        Between the two, I definitely prefer the Mayer for pretty much every reason Ryan listed. Sounds better (or at least a lot more like a traditional strat) and I prefer the neck.

        If I was going to drop that kind of coin of a signature strat, it would absolutely be an earlier John Mayer strat.

        Actually, if you can live without it saying 'Made In U.S.A.' on the headstock, and if you like rosewood fretboards, the 60s Classic Players is a great guitar and used, they usually go for around $500 used.
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        • #5
          earlier John Mayer strat.


          Especially in Charcoal Frost Metallic or Shoreline Gold.

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          • #6
            Especially in Charcoal Frost Metallic or Shoreline Gold.


            I love that charcoal one.

            That's the one I've spent the most time with. Being set up perfectly certainly helps.
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            • #7
              I'm not a fan of VN's, so I'd have to opt for the Mayer, plus I prefer a thicker neck. But I don't really like the scooped sound of the Mayer pup's either. In the end, I'd rather have a Mexi with a set of Fralins, Kinman's, or a set from an EJ Strat.
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              • #8
                I like both guitars and both guitarists.. But either way i'd swap out the pick-ups though. I'd love to put JB S-Deluxe's in it.
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                • #9
                  Mayer strat ftw!

                  Love the sound of those big dippers!!


                  Anyone ever listen to gravity?


                  Clapton's is trying too much to be like a Gibson
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                  • #10

                    Love the sound of those big dippers!!

                    Anyone ever listen to gravity?


                    Funny you should mention that song. At first I hated that song. Then I saw a show of his in January 07 in Miami. The 9 minute version of Gravity converted me. The Youtube of it really doesn't even do it justice. It was a Strat Tone Tour de Force.

                    Recently I contacted Bryan about pickups for my Strat. As a point of reference I told Bryan I wanted the John Mayer, Jimi Hendrix sound. I gave him the Youtube of the Mayer Trio doing Bold as Love. He recommended an overwound set of his V60's.

                    Let me tell you, I got them about a month ago and installed them a week ago. I could not be happier with them. At first, I didn't hear them as being that much better than the GFS's. Then, I popped it into position 4 and played Gravity. I don't think Big Dipper pickups could've gotten me ANY closer to the sound than my BG Pups do.

                    Honestly, for Mayer's tone, tweed fender cleans and quality vintage late '60s style pickups are all you need. I play through a Vibro Champ modded to tweed specs, and I can easily nail Mayer's tone from Gravity in position 4, and position 4 is pure Vultures territory.

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                    • #11
                      I'd take the Mayer strat, i just dont like the V neck on the clapton strat.

                      Both great sounding guitars. I'd prefer the mayer strat, because it would be better for quiet clean tones, unlike my SRV

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                      • #12
                        I'd go for the Mayer strat too, for pretty much every reason listed above. And I actually liked the Big Dipper pups
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                        • #13
                          Anyone have a picture of Clapton's hard v? I'm curious, I don't think I've ever seen anything like that.
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                          • #14
                            Actually now that I did some reading I'm not sure he uses a hard V anymore, but the mid-50's hard V is I think what was on Blackie.

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                            • #15
                              Actually now that I did some reading I'm not sure he uses a hard V anymore, but the mid-50's hard V is I think what was on Blackie.


                              Blackie had a '57 neck, but remember that the Fender necks from the 50's weren't particularly consistent, so the year of production wouldn't have guaranteed a hard V. Ironically, the neck on the modern Clapton Strat is actually based on a Martin neck.
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