Members FourT6and2 Posted December 30, 2009 Members Share Posted December 30, 2009 For anyone looking on eBay, don't bid on this item. It is a fake. http://cgi.ebay.com/1979-Gibson-Les-Paul-Silverburst-rare-guitar_W0QQitemZ180450615848QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item2a03b1e228#ht_500wt_1182 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cpviolation Posted December 30, 2009 Members Share Posted December 30, 2009 Did you check the serial number?Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members benricci Posted December 30, 2009 Members Share Posted December 30, 2009 What are you basing your assumption on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FUBTAG Posted December 30, 2009 Members Share Posted December 30, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FourT6and2 Posted December 30, 2009 Author Members Share Posted December 30, 2009 Wow, I'm just trying to look out for those who may not be experienced enough to tell on their own. No need to start flaming me for posting something so blatantly obvious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AL30 Posted December 30, 2009 Members Share Posted December 30, 2009 What are you basing your assumption on? Wrong headstock inlay, dot inlays on the neck etc. There's a good shot of a '79 silverburst here: http://www.rocknrollvintage.com/information-on-vintage-gibson-les-paul-guitars.htm AL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FourT6and2 Posted December 30, 2009 Author Members Share Posted December 30, 2009 lol, and seller just changed the date from '79 to '80... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members benricci Posted December 30, 2009 Members Share Posted December 30, 2009 Wow, I'm just trying to look out for those who may not be experienced enough to tell on their own. No need to start flaming me for posting something so blatantly obvious... I don't think anyone was flaming. I couldn't load the pics on eBay, so I was simply asking what you were basing your assumption on. No need to get touchy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FourT6and2 Posted December 30, 2009 Author Members Share Posted December 30, 2009 Wrong headstock inlay, dot inlays on the neck etc.There's a good shot of a '79 silverburst here:http://www.rocknrollvintage.com/information-on-vintage-gibson-les-paul-guitars.htmAL hahah, way more than that... It looks like the seller drew the headstock inlay on with a silver sharpie... There's about 2984949448 things wrong with that guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FourT6and2 Posted December 30, 2009 Author Members Share Posted December 30, 2009 I don't think anyone was flaming. I couldn't load the pics on eBay, so I was simply asking what you were basing your assumption on. No need to get touchy. My bad, I thought people were saying that it's so obvious that it's fake and I shouldn't be posting about it... Sorry. The things wrong with this guitar are: Wrong headstock inlay. Wrong headstock logo. Wrong tuners. No burst on back/neck. Has a weird shoulder cut-out on back of guitar. Wrong bridge. Has coil-tap switch. Wrong fretboard inlays. Wrong binding. That's just off the top of my head. I'm sure there are more things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members benricci Posted December 30, 2009 Members Share Posted December 30, 2009 No worries. Thanks for looking out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AL30 Posted December 30, 2009 Members Share Posted December 30, 2009 hahah, way more than that...It looks like the seller drew the headstock inlay on with a silver sharpie...There's about 2984949448 things wrong with that guitar. Oh yeah, a ton more ! I just didn't feel like getting in too deep. Nice body contour huh? Funny I've got an '80 Silverburst and it doesn't look anything like that one. AL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FourT6and2 Posted December 30, 2009 Author Members Share Posted December 30, 2009 Oh yeah, a ton more ! I just didn't feel like getting in too deep. Nice body contour huh? Funny I've got an '80 Silverburst and it doesn't look anything like that one.AL lol, yeah... I have a '79. Great guitars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members benricci Posted December 30, 2009 Members Share Posted December 30, 2009 I have a '79. Great guitars! Can you post some pics? I love the look of Silverburst LPs (real ones, of course). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TresHombres Posted December 30, 2009 Members Share Posted December 30, 2009 For anyone looking on eBay, don't bid on this item. It is a fake.http://cgi.ebay.com/1979-Gibson-Les-Paul-Silverburst-rare-guitar_W0QQitemZ180450615848QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item2a03b1e228#ht_500wt_1182 Hello... new to the forums. I think this deserves a bit more consideration. Aside from the tuners, brass nut, tailpiece and Sharpie headstock 'incident' this could be real. http://www.lespaulforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50146 Also, a Google Books search for "Gruhn Les Paul SM" and "Bacon Les Paul SM" show that it's a documented model. The seller would be served by being more detailed in his description. The serial number is clearly visible in the auction, so Gibson may be able to provide info to prospective buyers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members benricci Posted December 30, 2009 Members Share Posted December 30, 2009 Hello... new to the forums. I think this deserves a bit more consideration. Aside from the tuners, brass nut, tailpiece and Sharpie headstock 'incident' this could be real.http://www.lespaulforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50146Also, a Google Books search for "Gruhn Les Paul SM" and "Bacon Les Paul SM" show that it's a documented model.The seller would be served by being more detailed in his description. The serial number is clearly visible in the auction, so Gibson may be able to provide info to prospective buyers. Very, very interesting...all those bullet points in the link above seem to negate all the things that were brought up here as "proof" of its counterfeit status. Seems like it was an early version of the Les Paul Studio we now know today... The headstock inlay is kind of funky, but there could be a million explanations for that, considering it's been knocked around for 30 years. I'm inclined to say this one might be genuine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bigconig Posted December 30, 2009 Members Share Posted December 30, 2009 Looks real to me. It obviously ain't a custom but looks like a studio custom that's been hacked at a bit. after looking at googlebooks like Hombre suggested I'm even more convinced it's legit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rockstrongo Posted December 30, 2009 Members Share Posted December 30, 2009 Actually, I'm pretty sure that's a real Gibson, but certainly not a real Les Paul "Custom". I have a friend who has a version of that guitar from the early 80's in black....has the same carve in the back of the body, two way switch behind the bridge, and so forth. His has a Kahler on it, however. I can't remember what the model is, something like "Standard Lite" or whatever. They didn't make them for very long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members _pete_ Posted December 30, 2009 Members Share Posted December 30, 2009 Hello... new to the forums. I think this deserves a bit more consideration. Aside from the tuners, brass nut, tailpiece and Sharpie headstock 'incident' this could be real.http://www.lespaulforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50146Also, a Google Books search for "Gruhn Les Paul SM" and "Bacon Les Paul SM" show that it's a documented model.The seller would be served by being more detailed in his description. The serial number is clearly visible in the auction, so Gibson may be able to provide info to prospective buyers. I also agree that it's legit.The guitar matches what's described in that Les Paul forum post exactly. The only thing wrong is that 'diamond inlay' on the headstock but I think that was a homemade job done by a previous owner.Everything else is there. The dot inlays, triple binding, belly cut, TP6 tail, truss cover engraving, large control cavity, and coil split switch. Even the color is greenish like an old nitro silverburst and it even has the correct case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bryvincent Posted December 30, 2009 Members Share Posted December 30, 2009 Wow, I'm just trying to look out for those who may not be experienced enough to tell on their own. No need to start flaming me for posting something so blatantly obvious... its real. i know that headstock hackjob makes you think its a fake at first but if you consider yourself "experienced", you could've at least do a bit of research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ten56gibby Posted December 30, 2009 Members Share Posted December 30, 2009 I was entirely unaware of this ST model and thought this to be majorly fraud. Learn something everyday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jamdogg Posted December 30, 2009 Members Share Posted December 30, 2009 Looks alot like an XR-1 to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ihavenofish Posted December 30, 2009 Members Share Posted December 30, 2009 i think its a real gibson. the headstock diamond looks like a sticker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members xmorgan socialx Posted December 30, 2009 Members Share Posted December 30, 2009 Gibson was doing some weird ass {censored} in the early 80's, and most gibson copies don't look that old, and aren't finished with nitro like this one clearly is based on the greenish color of the burst. There are a lot of strange silver burst models floating around from this time frame including the 335S, the Sonex, and i believe they may have done a marauder in silver burst as well... all of which are short run guitars made somewhere between 79 and 85. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brewski Posted December 31, 2009 Members Share Posted December 31, 2009 Please continue to post "Watch Out" ebay sales for fakes!! It is the only way people can be aware of what might be out there. Great Job but in this case that thing is real and probably worth some cash. Again - it's great to know we are on the lookout for each other and I'd hate to get caught with a fraud. Thanks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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