Members bluesguyjon Posted February 3, 2010 Members Share Posted February 3, 2010 Earlier today, I babysat a friend's music store for a few hours. I mostly sat at the workbench in the back setting up some guitars for him, but in my spare time I found this guy in the (way) back. When I plugged it in, it didn't make any sound, so I asked to take it home and fix it up, but he just gave it to me because he didn't think he could sell it. The reason the cavity is open is the old plastic pickguard literally fell apart when I unscrewed it. My question is after the pics. Finally got a video up for you guys . [YOUTUBE]IUi6OhBNHmE[/YOUTUBE] My first request is help in identifying what brand/year this guitar is. There's no logo/letters anywhere on the guitar. Also, I'm finding it slightly difficult to decipher which wires to to which terminals on the pot. Also, I'm capable with the innards of a strat, but I've never encountered a pot with one of the terminals that comes over the top like that. I think I need to replace the pot, so if I use just a standard one, can I treat that overreaching terminal like the 3rd one on a standard pot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wedgehed II Posted February 3, 2010 Members Share Posted February 3, 2010 I'm sure someone will be along to offer tech help. In the meantime..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bluesguyjon Posted February 3, 2010 Author Members Share Posted February 3, 2010 thanks, nice picture . i got the thing actually making noise (just 1 wire wasn't soldered correctly), and i gotta say it rivals my '66 gibson es-125 p90s for sound sexiness. zero hum to boot. i'm still curious as to the make and year, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PunkKitty Posted February 4, 2010 Members Share Posted February 4, 2010 Sweet! Restoring it will be a fun project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members volvo1800 Posted February 4, 2010 Members Share Posted February 4, 2010 I think I can figure it out . . definitely 30's 40's material. Could be home made though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mightysasquatch Posted February 4, 2010 Members Share Posted February 4, 2010 Cool find! Those old lap steels are nice, not sure of the maker though. Does it say anything at all on the headstock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members volvo1800 Posted February 4, 2010 Members Share Posted February 4, 2010 Could you zoom in on that headstock for me, as well as the back of the guitar.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarcapo Posted February 4, 2010 Members Share Posted February 4, 2010 thanks, nice picture . i got the thing actually making noise (just 1 wire wasn't soldered correctly), and i gotta say it rivals my '66 gibson es-125 p90s for sound sexiness. zero hum to boot. i'm still curious as to the make and year, though. That pickup works? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sxyryan Posted February 4, 2010 Members Share Posted February 4, 2010 Sorry I can't help with identifying... but that is bomb as hell! HNGD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members D Carroll Posted February 4, 2010 Members Share Posted February 4, 2010 that is AWESOME!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elias Graves Posted February 4, 2010 Members Share Posted February 4, 2010 Quarter can probably tell us. The construction reminds me of Harmony a bit but who knows. Some closer pics like Volvo said would help. I'll look around and see if I spot anything. I bet sounds like friggin heaven. Congrats. Do you have a 40's era lo fi amp for it yet? :poke:HNGD. EG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members diceman1000 Posted February 4, 2010 Members Share Posted February 4, 2010 Quarter can probably tell us. The construction reminds me of Harmony a bit but who knows. Some closer pics like Volvo said would help. I'll look around and see if I spot anything. I bet sounds like friggin heaven. Congrats. Do you have a 40's era lo fi amp for it yet? :poke:HNGD. EG that's your kinda' fiddle EG... to the OP, sweet find!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Woody_in_MN Posted February 4, 2010 Members Share Posted February 4, 2010 I can't help you in identifying it, but HNGD. Lamb Chop my white german shepard gives a (potential) 4 paws up. - w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bluesguyjon Posted February 4, 2010 Author Members Share Posted February 4, 2010 that cable was around the headstock and under the strings when i found it, i took it off when i took off the old and dead as hell strings i found it with. there's no letters or markings on the guitar of any kind. i've only cranked it through my pignose so far, it's a little late in the evening to plug it into my fender hot rod combo. that'll be tomorrow when everyone's out of the house . i was as surprised as you guys to find that pickup working with the way it looks and all, i was afraid that was the reason it wasn't making noise. i'll see about posting a youtube video for you guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sxyryan Posted February 4, 2010 Members Share Posted February 4, 2010 Is that a bolt neck on a lapsteel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bluesguyjon Posted February 4, 2010 Author Members Share Posted February 4, 2010 looks that way. i'm guessing the metal plate is something done after the fact to support the neck, it looks like the neck is ready to come off without that plate there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mightysasquatch Posted February 4, 2010 Members Share Posted February 4, 2010 May Bell guitar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members babguitargod Posted February 4, 2010 Members Share Posted February 4, 2010 It's a stella. It has the same headstock as an acoustic my uncle had when I was a kid.Plus in your picture I can see the name slightly I think. Look close. You might be able to make it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bluesguyjon Posted February 4, 2010 Author Members Share Posted February 4, 2010 finally found my good camera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members volvo1800 Posted February 4, 2010 Members Share Posted February 4, 2010 i think its a budget orient Oahu from the 30's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members headless Posted February 4, 2010 Members Share Posted February 4, 2010 I know absolutely nothing about lap-steels, but to me that guitar looks like something that would have been on the low-end of catalog laps. I love a good chase, so I started doing some image searches. And while I don't really have an answer for you, I did find this interesting site: http://online.physics.uiuc.edu/courses/phys498pom/498emi_lap_steel_guitars.html Also, it probably doesn't mean much, but I did find that these Goldtone steels have a headstock similar to yours: http://www.janetdavismusic.com/gold_tone_lap_steel_6.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bluesguyjon Posted February 4, 2010 Author Members Share Posted February 4, 2010 sheer luck, take a look at the pickup on mine, then at the couple of glimpses you get of this guy's pickup. [YOUTUBE]1fSdCVuELhQ[/YOUTUBE] he says it's a 1930s Supertone EDIT: pics of a supertone just so happens the guy who took those also used the same model of camera i have, but that's besides the point . your searches and links led me in the right direction, so thanks guys. kinda cool, though, i haven't seen one on the internet as old as mine yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mike Fiasco Posted February 4, 2010 Members Share Posted February 4, 2010 That's one hell of a pickup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Doctor49 Posted February 4, 2010 Members Share Posted February 4, 2010 . Sure? the horizontal name plate marks on your headstock do not match the Supertone, which is inclined across the headstock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bluesguyjon Posted February 4, 2010 Author Members Share Posted February 4, 2010 Sure? the horizontal name plate marks on your headstock do not match the Supertone, which is inclined across the headstock. the style of the pickup being the same, the shape of the headstock being the same, the tuners looking identical, and the shape of the body being very similar, and given the generally poor aesthetic condition this guitar is in along with it being (I'm guestimating here) about 20 years older than the one in that picture, it seems more likely to me that the name just got worn off over time vs. it being a different make. EDIT: just had a thought, the style of the logo could've changed over time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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