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  • Hondo Guitar. Rare?

    I have done a lot of research but I still can't find the answer to the question I have. I have a Hondo Les Paul Deluxe 740 Mark II. Has anyone else had or have this guitar? If so, can you please give me some more information on it, because you will still have more information than I do. Here's what I can tell you. It's red-to-black fade everywhere. It's got what looks like white Dimarzio pickups, although I'm a noob, so I probably can't tell a dime's difference. It also has pearl inlays and the serial number is HS740BGS. The HS-740 seems pretty obvious to me, but I have no idea what BGS could mean. Any suggestions?

    MV

    P.S. I'll get some pics up when I can.
    GUITARS: 2004 American Standard Stratocaster, 1970's Hondo 740 Deluxe Mark II (Les Paul copy), 1994 Ibanez RG270 (Maple Neck/Turqoise), Kit-built Telecaster, 2007 Ibanez AW40NT, 1949 Harmony Sovereign<br><br><br>AMPS: Marshall MG100HDFX / Marshall 4x12 cab, Line 6 Spider 50W (Gen. 1), Crate KBA-10<br><br>PEDALS: Dunlop Original Cry Baby, Boss BD-2 (Blues Driver)

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    Hondo is a brand of Samick which is a brand of Cort which started back in the 50's [IIRC] as Tiesco founded by Jack W. who is responsible for importing all the Jap-crap back in the day.

    If it has Dimarzio pickups, they are not stock. Hondo's were/are pac-rim clones. Some are great, others not so.

    The dearth of info has to do with the fact they are not that highly regarded IHMO.
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      Just a word of advice.. Using the "J-word" like that has gotten several people banned around here.. The mods are pretty sensitive about that one. Might wanna edit that
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      • #4
        Thanks for the heads up RC, but my post is "historically correct" as that's what they were called back then by pretty much everybody. Not disparaging the nation-state or the people, just the junk they were dumping over here at the time.
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          HONDO=SUCKAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!11
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          • #6
            as Tiesco founded by Jack W. who is responsible for importing all the Jap-crap back in the day.

            If it has Dimarzio pickups, they are not stock. Hondo's were/are pac-rim clones. Some are great, others not so.

            The dearth of info has to do with the fact they are not that highly regarded IHMO.


            It was rumored that a lot of the early Hondos had DiMarzio pickups, actually. I have always had my doubts about that rumor, though.

            The early Hondos (and alot of the other import stuff) were manufactured in the Matsumoku plant. http://www.iqui.de/ has a lot of examples of Matsumoku-made guitars.

            Here's a Hondo II LP:


            FWIW, my first 'real' electric was a Hondo 'Deluxe 767' flying V (exactly like the one pictured on the website I linked above). It was a colossal POS, but I threw several hundred dollars into it (Schaller FR, EMGs, etc) anyways hoping to make it a worthy instrument. But in the end, it was still a Hondo :cop:

            MaxVolume, if yours is one of the 'newer' ones (and I suspect that it is), it's probably made of plywood like this V I picked up last year (you can clearly see the plywood layers in the pickup cavities):


            It now looks like this, btw:

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            • #7
              I can't help you with your particular model as I'm having the same problems getting info on my Hondo.

              I have a MIJ 'Fame Series 7601' strat copy (H-S-S pickup config) with toggle switches for each pickup and I simply love the the guitar for it's playability. The action is the lowest possible without the fret buzz and the neck is fast and smooth. The toggle switches allow for easier pickup combinations than a single 5 way switch. A toggle switch gives a few more pickup configurations than a 5 way and it can also act as a kill switch.

              I love my Hondo!
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              • #8
                I had got one off of craigslist a couple of years ago. Only one of the pickups was original, and it was a Dimarzio.

                If you take out one of the pickups, you'll see that the body is hollow. It's plywood made, and the archtop is really bent plywood. Mine wasn't burst but a nice ivory color.

                I didn't keep it long enough to bond with it but it was a cool project.

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                • #9
                  I have read that begining around 1982 Samick started building guitars for the company that owned the Hondo name (Link)

                  "Samick formed a joint venture with Texas-based International Music Company (also known as the Hondo Guitar Company). The new company introduced modern U.S. production methods to the Korean market, while taking advantage of the low-wage level in Korea to offer inexpensive, entry-level guitars.

                  Hondo initially produced a line of classical and folk guitars before adding its first electric guitars in 1972. By 1974, the company's electric guitars had achieved a certain level of quality, and Hondo became one of the largest-selling entry-level brands by the mid-1970s. Hondo added a variety of instruments to its line during the 1970s, including banjos, while continuing to make product improvements. By the end of that decade, Hondo was selling nearly 800,000 instruments per year before fading out in the 1980s. "

                  In the late 80s and early 90s both Hondo and Samick used the same headstock inlay design on some Les Paul copies



                  I have a Samick from that era and it is nice guitar

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                  • #10
                    While my post may come across as a tad disparaging I actually use an early 90's Hondo body on my frankenstrat. The body is plywood, but on a Strat all the body really does is hold all the bits together, so it sounds as Stratty as the next one and I'm really the only one that knows so it doesn't really matter. Aside from the cheap pot metal trem bloc [that even Fenders have] the Hondo trem is actually quite nice. I has a shelf on the back of it so you can use the heel of your palm to bend up, instead of the whammy bar. A nice touch.
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                    • #11
                      Thanks for the heads up RC, but my post is "historically correct" as that's what they were called back then by pretty much everybody. Not disparaging the nation-state or the people, just the junk they were dumping over here at the time.


                      Very true and I got zero beef with someone using the term. But, the powers that be on HC take a different view, and so far it's been just about zero-tolerance. Be careful. :wave:
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                      • #12
                        IMC (Hondo) bought Jackson/Charvel from Grover Jackson. All those great MIJ model-series Charvels were made under Hondo's watch.
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                        • #13
                          Hondo was synonymous for low end copy junk at the time (1979).

                          They later tried to better themselves with the "Fame Mastercaster" but after they bought Charvel/Jackson that solved the problem for them.
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                          • #14
                            I've played quite a few various Hondos over the years, starting in the early 80s.

                            Some were utter ****************, some were more than decent.

                            I had my hands on a Hondo 8 string bass once that I would really have liked to take possession of. It played and felt really nice.

                            Incidentally, there's nothing wrong with plywood guitars. I've had some killer plywood cheapies.

                            For quite a while my #1 gigging guitar was a plywood Vester Telecaster copy, totally stock. It was a great little guitar.
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                            • #15
                              My very first guitar was a Hondo 2 Les Paul copy. I swear i remember it not having a 3-way toggle switch but having those white dip switches instead. But I googled for a few and couldnt find a image of one with dip switches. Mine must have been the real bottom of the barrel Hondos then...lol.
                              And they did come with dimarzio pickups..

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