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  • Peavey Bandit112 vs Peavy Valveking 112 - Help me decide!

    I'd post this in HCAF, but y'all know how that place is...

    Currently, the only amp I have is a Peavey Rage 158 (15W) that's about 12 years old.

    I'd like to by a larger amp, but I'm on a limited budget. I've narrowed it down to two in my price range; the Bandit 112 (Solid State, 80W, $299) and Valveking 112 (Tube, 50W, $419). Normally, I'd opt for the tube amp over the solid state, but I'm seeing mixed reviews for the Valveking.

    Anyone own a Valveking or ever use one? Is it worth the extra $120 or should I go the Solid State route? The Rage has Transtube and I'd consider it acceptable given the circumstances.

  • #2
    Why don't you go for the Fender Frontman 212? It's the same price, gets excellent reviews, two 12" speakers and lots of power. It also comes with a footswitch.
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    • #3
      I spent a few hours demo'ing the Valveking. I wound up getting a Crate V50, which is great, but I sometimes wish I'd gotten the VK. I remember it having very nice clean and distorted tones

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      • #4
        Get a Fender Mustang II...$199...
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        • #5
          I know a couple guys that have VKs and after some mods like new tube they like them. I personally have only played with the stock VK and have to say I really hated them. The cleans are good but the overdrive is a buzzy, ice pickey mess. I kind of like steve_man's suggestion of the Fender Mustang II. I played one today and it was a cool amp.
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          • #6
            BlueSky,

            I have the VK112, and had an older Bandit for a while. The Bandit was way too heavy for me to drag around - it was really a problem cause I have a bad back. The VK CAN be a great amp with some pre-amp re-tubing. It is not a metal amp - but does vintage, and medium high gain well. The reverb is not the best - but I set that at more of a subtle setting and it is not a problem for me. If you end up getting the VK - PM me - I'll give you some suggestions.
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            • #7
              Valves and a pedal will kill the bandit.

              Tho I do like bandits, good amps.
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              • #8
                The early Bandits with Transtube were killer amps. I'm not sure so much about the newer ones. I remember several years ago being in a store and trying out a newer Bandit and having that "what's happened?" feeling. I bought that Bandit for my stepson and he's had the same reaction.

                Along the lines of what Steve_Man is saying, I'd also keep an eye out for the new line of Vox amps that will be available shortly.


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                I think it would bring you more versatility than the Valve King.

                But then again, I'm pretty sure we're into another new generation of the Bandit since the last time I auditioned one, so it's definitely worth checking out. They sure were stellar for the money. I offered my stepson a Fender Super 112 tube or a Marshall VS8080 in trade for the Bandit I bought him, and he wouldn't bite on either. He still luvs that amp some 16 or so years later.
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                • #9
                  I own a Valve King 112 and have had it for about a year and a half. I bought it after using it to demo a guitar and I could hear the potential in the amp.

                  The key to getting the most out of the VK is two-fold: you need a decent speaker and decent preamp tubes. The VK is a solid amp and, after a few changes, it is a fantastic sounding amp. I have a Hellatone 60 in mine. It has beautiful cleans and, with the bright switch engaged, it comes very close to Fender territory. The second channels sounds really good for anything from slight dirt to a fair amount of gain. It really likes pedals. It's light and dependable.

                  If you can find a used one you can probably replace the speaker and retube it for close to what a new one costs. I honestly think that if you go for the VK you will not be disappointed by it.
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                  • #10
                    you can easily pick up a used Peavey Classic 30 or Delta Blues in the $300-$400 range. I would take either of those over the valve king. Used Transtube Bandit 112's can easily be found in the $150 range
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                    • #11
                      the word is around here that the older bandit(s) was better. I cactually have the smaller one, the Envoy, and don't like it. Weight, poor controls, speaker sounds cheap, and really it was too much money considering.

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                      • #12
                        the word is around here that the older bandit(s) was better. I cactually have the smaller one, the Envoy, and don't like it. Weight, poor controls, speaker sounds cheap, and really it was too much money considering.


                        I mentioned above that I'd bought a Bandit for my stepson that I liked, but I also had bought an Envoy for my son. Night and day between the two. We sold off the Envoy. There's a lot better sounding bedroom amps around than that one, but that early Bandit is indeed a sweet SS amp.
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                        • #13
                          Get a Fender Mustang II...$199...


                          Seems like a nice amp but perhaps a bit small for him?
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                          • #14
                            For the top end of your budget, you could get a used Fender hot rod or blues de-something or a blues jr. or Peavey Classic 30, maybe a small Laney or AC15. If you're not afraid to buy used, you can stretch that budget a whole lot further.

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                            • #15
                              Seems like a nice amp but perhaps a bit small for him?




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