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  • My long road to "the tone" for me has become jaded, Any suggestions?

    I have been working a long time to get that "sound I want" and I have finally become tired and in need of some help. I am looking for a great blues sound. I went P90 and as far as pickups go it's the ticket. But my amp is holding me back. I cannot have a large rig so I have to stick with a 5 watter and a box. I use currently a Bugera V5 with Jensen speaker and it is a good little amp but it seems to be getting muddier by the day even with brand new JJ tubes (pretty sure it's getting ready to let go). I have a BB preamp on the way but I need suggestions on small little amps. Maybe the LIL night train? what else is out there different from what the sell in GC and the like. I am open to pricing up to 500 bucks. Thanks!
    Gear1996 Strat deluxe, Schecter TSH-1, Squire standard Strat, Dearmond M65-C, Blues JR, Crate VC20, Bugera V5. Vox Time Machine, Keeley mod DS1, Wampler Euphoria, Vox wah.

  • #2
    I got the Egnater Rebel 20... it's a great little amp that can put out some great blues tones. I play a Les Paul and a Telecaster with it, and both sound great. Variable wattage knob is a great "extra" to have (can go 1-20 watts). Not a muddy amp at all. Not sure what their prices are used, tho... I spent just a BIT more than 500 for mine new.
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    • #3
      Thanks for the suggestion Ditched! I will see if I can find out more about it! Keep em coming!
      Gear1996 Strat deluxe, Schecter TSH-1, Squire standard Strat, Dearmond M65-C, Blues JR, Crate VC20, Bugera V5. Vox Time Machine, Keeley mod DS1, Wampler Euphoria, Vox wah.

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      • #4
        There's also Jet City.

        There's also the not worrying about tone and just working on improving the player. :>
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        • #5
          $500 used can go a long way. I picked up a used 5w Laney Lionheart from GC for that. It is the most transparent amp I have ever heard, needless to add own. Therefore, if you dig the sound of your pickups, this amp only makes them louder.
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          • #6
            Honeyiscool, I am a firm believer in being happy with ones equipment and the fact that when you are inspired by your tone it becomes second nature to learn. And easier at that. I have been playing and paying dues a long time I am ready for better equipment and to finally find what I am looking for.
            Gear1996 Strat deluxe, Schecter TSH-1, Squire standard Strat, Dearmond M65-C, Blues JR, Crate VC20, Bugera V5. Vox Time Machine, Keeley mod DS1, Wampler Euphoria, Vox wah.

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            • #7
              sk8centilli
              I def and interested in transparency! Thank you for the suggestion. I am bout to go on a weekend long hunt around Alabama and Mississippi. I never even thought about Laney!
              Gear1996 Strat deluxe, Schecter TSH-1, Squire standard Strat, Dearmond M65-C, Blues JR, Crate VC20, Bugera V5. Vox Time Machine, Keeley mod DS1, Wampler Euphoria, Vox wah.

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              • #8
                one day you'll come to realize that the tone was inside you from the start
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                • #9
                  I just got a Laney Cub 10 on eBay best offer brand new for $180, direct shipped from the laney distribution center.

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                  • #10
                    2 suggestions:
                    1. Find out what people you like use and try those out (eg, didnt SRV use a fender and tubescreamer?)

                    2. Dont overlook anything. Some of the best gear ive bought is stuff that I initially overlooked for one reason or another - youll never know what its like until you try it!
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                    • #11
                      I'm on a Kustom jag right now. I had a HV65 and sold it. In hind sight it was a great amp. I did not need 65 w so I got the HV30. Yes - I have had Blackhearts, a Jet City Combo, a Valveking, and played thru a bunch of others - and I LERV the HV30. More of a basic controls setup, but still a lot of flexibilty. Not really a modeling amp. Anyway - her it is. You sould go play a Kustom or two. They make 100% tube amps as well.
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                      • #12
                        Just to throw out there, at different times, I've had Fenders and Voxes as my main amps and I lived with a Marshall for a year that got a lot of play time. My point is, there are lots of amp tones that, not only I like, but I can have as my main amp.

                        Having said that, I have never played a 5W amp of any kind at any price point that I could happily live with as my only amp. I much prefer the complexity that comes with amps with at least two power tubes.

                        I would also through out there that there's probably a very good reason that AC15s, Tweed Deluxes, Blackface type Deluxes and 18W Marshalls are SOOOOO popular.

                        If you don't need the headroom that bigger versions of these amps offer, I'd guess one of those four amps with the right boost pedal would be very likely to make you happy. There's also a chance that you don't really like P90s.



                        Not trying to totally stir the pot, but maybe traditional single coils or bright humbuckers are more for you, once you have the right amp.

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                        • #13
                          Maybe look into an old champ or vibrochamp?

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                          • #14
                            If you're looking at small amps, here's my suggestion. Nothing wrong with small amps from a wattage perspective. But often times the compact cabs and small, cheap speakers that come with these amps really hold back the tone. A big speaker and full size cab provide a body and depth that the little boxes and 6", 8" speakers just cannot do. So consider going with a head/cab setup and getting yourself a decent cab.
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                            • #15
                              that BB should sound bitchin through a small fender champ or somethin like that
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