Harmony Central Forums
Announcement Announcement Module
Collapse
No announcement yet.

Head or combo? And why?

Page Title Module
Move Remove Collapse









X
Conversation Detail Module
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #31
    It depends.

    If you need the "stage presence" to sell your band's image and are young enough to schlep it around, go for a head/cab.

    If you're not trying to "sell an image", don't drive a van or don't want to deal with a lot of weight, go with a combo (although tube combos aren't light either).


    Sounds like you are assuming that Head/Cab means giant marshall head and 4x12 cab. I prefer smaller amps, and smaller amps generally have more issues with rattle because of the lower mass and proximity to the speaker. A small head and small cab is the better choice IMO. It won't break your back, take up much space, and has nothing to do with image.
    Listen...

    Comment


    • #32
      Sounds like you are assuming that Head/Cab means giant marshall head and 4x12 cab. I prefer smaller amps, and smaller amps generally have more issues with rattle because of the lower mass and proximity to the speaker. A small head and small cab is the better choice IMO. It won't break your back, take up much space, and has nothing to do with image.


      Yes, that's "the image" part of things... nobody needs a half or full stack for volume these days - it's only for stage presence and image.

      If you don't need "the image", a small cab with a head would be fine in place of a combo.

      A perfect example is the gig we're doing tomorrow evening - I'll be playing through two Marshall half-stacks, when I could easily do the gig with my SCXD mic'ed through the PA. The fans (and promoter) expect to see the "wall of sound", so we're going to give them what they want (and what they're paying for).
      My band "The Executives" website : TheExecutivesMusic.com

      Comment


      • #33
        I like a 1x12 combo. Any bigger and it'd have to be a head/cab.
        Guitar Rig: Musicman Silhouette -> Cool Cat Transparent OD -> Fender Mustang I (Twin model)
        Drum Rig: Mapex Pro M's, Saluda Mists, Evans heads

        Comment


        • #34
          You might need more than a 1x12 15w if you've got a loud drummer in rehearsals though

          I played in two bands as the drummer, and here was an interesting one. One band had a Crate VC 4xEL84 (30w) 1x12 amp and that thing would not cut it volume-wise. Just got fizzy and hissy and disappeared. Another band had a UNIVALVE with a single EL34 (7-10 watts maybe) through a 4x12 cab with V30's and that thing worked fine. Sure it was cranked and distorted, but it actually cut. At gigs he'd have to run it half volume.
          Guitar Rig: Musicman Silhouette -> Cool Cat Transparent OD -> Fender Mustang I (Twin model)
          Drum Rig: Mapex Pro M's, Saluda Mists, Evans heads

          Comment


          • #35


              When it comes to larger amps (50-watts or more) I definitely prefer the head + speaker
              cabinet arrangement.

              As long as it's a 2x10 or 2x12 cabinet, a head + speaker cabinet is easier to move around
              than a massive combo amp.

            Comment


            • #36
              Head. It gives me a range of speaker/cabinet options.
              Originally Posted by csm


              The first, and most frequently violated rule of punk is: THERE ARE NO RULES.



              "You know, once you've had that guitar up so loud on the stage, where you can lean back and volume will stop you from falling backward, that's a hard drug to kick." — David Gilmour

              Fender :: Gibson :: Epiphone :: Ibanez :: Yamaha
              Blackstar :: Orange :: Vox

              Comment


              • #37
                LOL, "massive combo amp". I have never seen one of those.

                In my experience, a 2x12 cab + a head takes up more space in the jeep than a 2x12 combo does. But then I was packing a small PA with it's stands and monitors and a dolly for a 2 trip load in.

                When you have a lot of gear in the back, a loose guitar head can be awkward to fit where it won't get banged around.
                HCGB Trooper #24

                Comment


                • #38
                  LOL, "massive combo amp". I have never seen one of those.

                  In my experience, a 2x12 cab + a head takes up more space in the jeep than a 2x12 combo does. But then I was packing a small PA with it's stands and monitors and a dolly for a 2 trip load in.

                  When you have a lot of gear in the back, a loose guitar head can be awkward to fit where it won't get banged around.


                  Amps in general are awkward to cart around. I'm been loving my little 15 watt 1x12 combo. I can grab that, my guitar, and a backpack with cables and stuff all in one trip for a barebones rig.

                  Could be worse. We could be drummers. Always felt bad for amount of crap they had to lug around.
                  Listen...

                  Comment


                  • #39
                    Head...in case something catastrophic happens to it you'll still have the cab to work with.


                    Head for these two reasons was my choice. I have a couple combos though that weren't offered in head style.

                    Comment


                    • #40
                      Could be worse. We could be drummers. Always felt bad for amount of crap they had to lug around.


                      Not only that, but we also get stuck setting up and tearing down gear while you guys are talking to the cute girls at the bar. And by the time I've spent 20 minutes loading the gear in and come back to look for the girls, I'm all sweaty and the next band has started playing. Definitely going to play guitar in the next band :P
                      Guitar Rig: Musicman Silhouette -> Cool Cat Transparent OD -> Fender Mustang I (Twin model)
                      Drum Rig: Mapex Pro M's, Saluda Mists, Evans heads

                      Comment


                      • #41
                        Amps in general are awkward to cart around. I'm been loving my little 15 watt 1x12 combo. I can grab that, my guitar, and a backpack with cables and stuff all in one trip for a barebones rig.

                        Could be worse. We could be drummers. Always felt bad for amount of crap they had to lug around.


                        That's the direction I've been gearing toward as I've gotten older. In the old days I packed a Twin Reverb, a Kustom Kombo II (tuck and roll, draw-bar organ) and a 760 Leslie as well.... Whew!

                        I have a HRD at practice, a BDri at home and the guys always load the HRD for gigs. I rarely have to move my amp over a foot or two.
                        HCGB Trooper #24

                        Comment


                        • #42
                          Have had point-to-point heads which shook apart when on cabs. (Used to play with powered 100WSuperlead head on ground and another, unplugged one, on top for show.) At high volumes, definitely think heads and tubes last longer IF not placed on cabs. Have VT22 which weighs more than my car, so no advantage in lugging about and the tubes get shaken badly. Have a bunch of recording/rehearsal combos BluesJunior, Vox, YCV40, which are easy enough to move but still think they'd last longer if electronics were separate.

                          Comment


                          • #43
                            Combos. Haven't owned a head in years.

                            I have owned huge heavy combos, they are a hassle. And I can see moving a head and 2x12 being a little easier than my old 75-lb. Carvin XV212. But remember the only real weight difference between the head and combo is the speaker, the head cabinet is NOT significantly lighter than a combo cabinet, and a speaker cabinet is NO lighter at all. So, you move both, you are pretty much guaranteeing you are moving at least 20lbs more than the combo itself.

                            But combos don't have to be heavy.

                            But it depends on what you are playing.

                            I haven't played anything better than a jam in over a decade. A Tweed Deluxe is less than 25 lbs and on a stand can fill most bars/clubs, and more power, my Allen Accomplice is the best of both worlds... a 35-lb., 35-watt 1x12 combo. Louder than a Deluxe Reverb, and lighter as well.

                            Separate cabs are a necessity if laying outdoors with sound reinforcement though, you'll lose half your volume with an open-back cab outside.

                            All of this is moot to me anymore, I'd never play without micing an amp again, I leave that to the cheap, or the amateurs, or the stubborn that all insist on no PA. So, I can play Wembley with a Champ at that point.

                            Comment


                            • #44
                              I picked up a Egnater Tweaker last weekend and got the combo over the head/cab version, because I thought it sounded better (and cheaper too). I can still run the amp into a seperate cab if I need to, with or without using the speaker in the combo. Best of both worlds....
                              ...when I'm 64...

                              Comment


                              • #45
                                I love my Traynor YCV 40 WR. It isn't so heavy that it can't be considered 'portable' and I have an extension cabinet that I can use or not...but damn it sounds great with the extension cab!!


                                I just re-tubed with JJs from Eurotubes the other day too...my, oh my...lovely.
                                President and CEO of The Foundation Of Right
                                Also President and CEO of The Foundation Of Wrong






                                Originally Posted by StankNasty


                                the dream isn't in your parents' basement

                                Comment



                                Working...
                                X