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  • NGD! SG Classic Faded is here!

    Well, after snatching it up for $600 with discount at GC over the phone, the wait is over, it's here!!





    The color is actually a deeper red than that, it's almost identical to the official Gibson picture:


    Overall impressions: this guitar SMOKES! It's my first ever guitar with P-90s, and it sounds superb. I recently tried a standard SG classic at GC, through a Tiny Terror and got instant Live at Leeds sound - mine sounds different, however.

    The pickups are likely hotter than my guitar with a SD Custom 5 in the bridge - with my Marshall plexi reissue on 9:00 it was already breaking up, but the pickups are super responsive, play lightly and they have a great chiming clean sound, ditto with the guitar volume rolled back. Volume halfway up, it gets a great late 60s blues rock/hard rock sound. I thought I could maybe get the who sound out of it, but no such luck - perhaps a Tiny Terror sounds more like a Hiwatt. Volume up all the way, and this is a hard rock riff monster. Instant Black Sabbath first two albums - NAILS the Paranoid and War Pigs tone, and random power chord riffs just sounded immense - HUGE, furry, deep sounding, yet articulate at the same time. I LOVE IT. Maybe it's just NGD shock but this may be the best sounding guitar I have. What's cool is that so few people that I listen to played P-90s (Pete and Tony come to mind but that's it), that unless I'm playing Who or Sabbath riffs, it's a very original sounding tone. Another plus, rolling the guitar volume down does not muddy the tone at all, I've had some issues with this on my other guitars and it's nice to have a clear sound at low volumes.

    Playability: Really really nice. I guess the Plek thing works. The action is super low so there's a bit of buzz, but it's lower than I like so I'll probably raise it a bit. It plays hella fast though. The neck seems thinner than the SG Classic I played at GC, and thinner than a VOS R0 I also played there. I'd put it on par with a newer strat neck, I guess.

    Cosmetics: Well, this is where Gibson usually screws up, and while they didn't do too badly it's not perfect. So as I said the color is more like the official Gibson picture, which is nice. I don't like the bright cherry of the glossy SGs. I've not had much experience with Gibson's faded guitars, but damn, it's like they didn't use any grain filler at all. I can feel and see all the open pores:




    Obviously in real life it doesn't look as extreme as these macro shots, but I was expecting something more like Fender's Highway 1 finishes, which are still solid. On this you can feel the grain. Not sure how I feel about that.

    The other issue is the binding - it's great almost all the way around the neck, with fret edge binding too. HOWEVER, on the low E side, between the nut and the 3rd fret, the binding is sort of hollowed out - it's an even thickness everwhere else, but is thinner there, so the neck wood sticks out slightly. It's especially bad in the space between the first and second frets:


    It doesn't really affect playability, but it's annoying knowing it's there. I guess there's nothing I can do about it right? Kind of absurd to ask for an exchange for such a minor issue, when the sound and playability are great, right/

    Overall, other than the binding thing, I'm very happy. Ultimately a guitar is about sound and feel, and this wins on both fronts. Not bad for $600!

    PS - if anybody knows how I can get a more solid feeling finish/fill the pores, that would be great - maybe some kind of wax? I hand-buffed my Highway 1 a few years back with Meguiar's polish and now it has a beautifully subtle shine, but I don't think that'll be possible on this.
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  • #2
    love them p90s...love them sgs...enjoy it

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    • #3
      Lovely SG!

      I wasn't sure about the finish on my LP Faded at first - but six months of sweating into it seemed to do the trick - now the back of the neck is beautiful to slide up and down. Get rawking that thing!

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      • #4
        Beautiful score!
        On the finish, grain filler goes first. It's nearly impossible to do it well after the fact.
        The best you can do probably is shoot a few coats of clear nitro over the top and buff it out. Without a filler underneath, the grain will reappear over time.
        They save much labor in skipping that step.

        HNGD!

        EG

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        • #5
          Beautiful score!
          On the finish, grain filler goes first. It's nearly impossible to do it well after the fact.
          The best you can do probably is shoot a few coats of clear nitro over the top and buff it out. Without a filler underneath, the grain will reappear over time.
          They save much labor in skipping that step.

          HNGD!

          EG


          Thanks! Yeah, I don't want to get into nitro. Might not wax fill in the cracks? I know they save labor, but man....does that really cost the $300 difference?

          PS, this is my first totally new guitar with nitro, and I know what you guys mean by the nitro smell. It's nice (My Highway 1 was nitro finished but had been sitting around the shop for months in the open)
          <div class="signaturecontainer"><b><font color="Red">FOR SALE:</font></b> <br />
          Laney LC15R amp, all reasonable offers accepted<br />
          <a href="http://acapella.harmony-central.com/showthread.php?t=2425083" target="_blank">http://acapella.harmony-central.com/....php?t=2425083</a><br />
          Zvex Vexter Box of Rock, $150<br />
          <br />
          ____________________________________<br />
          <br />
          &quot;If rhythm's a drug, I'm hooked on you<br />
          So show me every move<br />
          We've got perfect motion&quot;<br />
          <br />
          <a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=7MG2J0CJnP4" target="_blank">http://youtube.com/watch?v=7MG2J0CJnP4</a> (2:55 into it. No, it has nothing to with guitar or bass but is as much an influence as all the rock and roll in the world)</div>

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          • #6
            PS - if anybody knows how I can get a more solid feeling finish/fill the pores, that would be great - maybe some kind of wax? I hand-buffed my Highway 1 a few years back with Meguiar's polish and now it has a beautifully subtle shine, but I don't think that'll be possible on this.


            Give yourself sometime to get use to it. You just might find you really start to like it.....I prefer guitars that look and feel like wood. As for wax, it would be cloudy in the pores and not look good.

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            • #7
              Nice!!!

              Did it come with a case, or a bag?
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              • #8
                woo hoo!

                Personally, I like the orange peel, open pore look on that.
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                • #9
                  Don't see them being offered in Europe at the moment
                  Music is a moral law. It gives soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination, and charm and gaiety to life and to everything. - Plato

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                  • #10
                    It came with a gig bag. Musician's Friend says it comes with HSC, GC says it comes with a gig bag. Odd, since they're the same company, right? Same price too
                    <div class="signaturecontainer"><b><font color="Red">FOR SALE:</font></b> <br />
                    Laney LC15R amp, all reasonable offers accepted<br />
                    <a href="http://acapella.harmony-central.com/showthread.php?t=2425083" target="_blank">http://acapella.harmony-central.com/....php?t=2425083</a><br />
                    Zvex Vexter Box of Rock, $150<br />
                    <br />
                    ____________________________________<br />
                    <br />
                    &quot;If rhythm's a drug, I'm hooked on you<br />
                    So show me every move<br />
                    We've got perfect motion&quot;<br />
                    <br />
                    <a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=7MG2J0CJnP4" target="_blank">http://youtube.com/watch?v=7MG2J0CJnP4</a> (2:55 into it. No, it has nothing to with guitar or bass but is as much an influence as all the rock and roll in the world)</div>

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                    • #11
                      Give yourself sometime to get use to it. You just might find you really start to like it.....I prefer guitars that look and feel like wood. As for wax, it would be cloudy in the pores and not look good.


                      I've Truoil'd a Faded with very very good results
                      Music is a moral law. It gives soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination, and charm and gaiety to life and to everything. - Plato

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                      • #12
                        Excellent! I'm not sure you could find a better dual P90 USA made guitar with a nitro finish for $600!

                        As Beyer asked, did it come with a case or bag? The description said it comes with a case, but I had my doubts...

                        EDIT: I noticed Musicians Friend changed it to say it comes with a gig bag now.
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                        • #13
                          Don't see them being offered in Europe at the moment


                          They're brand new. I haven't even seen any reviews on them yet
                          <div class="signaturecontainer"><b><font color="Red">FOR SALE:</font></b> <br />
                          Laney LC15R amp, all reasonable offers accepted<br />
                          <a href="http://acapella.harmony-central.com/showthread.php?t=2425083" target="_blank">http://acapella.harmony-central.com/....php?t=2425083</a><br />
                          Zvex Vexter Box of Rock, $150<br />
                          <br />
                          ____________________________________<br />
                          <br />
                          &quot;If rhythm's a drug, I'm hooked on you<br />
                          So show me every move<br />
                          We've got perfect motion&quot;<br />
                          <br />
                          <a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=7MG2J0CJnP4" target="_blank">http://youtube.com/watch?v=7MG2J0CJnP4</a> (2:55 into it. No, it has nothing to with guitar or bass but is as much an influence as all the rock and roll in the world)</div>

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                          • #14
                            :thu: Mmmmm, SG ....
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                            • #15
                              Beauty!

                              (I thought it was the 60's SG Tribute P90 that was advertising with case...)
                              http://www.harmonycentral.com/t5/Electric-Guitars/I-smeared-bacon-fat-on-my-strat-now-it-stinks/td-p/16697195

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