Members Brian Krashpad Posted May 5, 2011 Members Share Posted May 5, 2011 http://www.premierguitar.com/Magazine/Issue/Daily/News/Peavey_Electronics_Corporation_Files_Multiple_Federal_Lawsuits_Against_Behringer.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hulston Prickle Posted May 5, 2011 Members Share Posted May 5, 2011 I was going to say "about time", then I saw the article points out Peavey started legal action in 2009. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elias Graves Posted May 5, 2011 Members Share Posted May 5, 2011 Coudnt happen to two better companies. EG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Yer Blues Posted May 5, 2011 Members Share Posted May 5, 2011 I didn't realize Behringer was ripping off other companies until I saw it on the Live Sound Forum a year or two ago. Those guys have been saying for years that Behringer is pulling this crap. I'm actually going to go over there and post this link, if it's not up already. EDIT: I'm back. There is a thread on it. Apparently Mackie and Roland have also sued Behringer, but either lost the case or settled out of court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brian Krashpad Posted May 5, 2011 Author Members Share Posted May 5, 2011 I was going to say "about time", then I saw the article points out Peavey started legal action in 2009. Peavey filed a suit in 2009, but just now filed a batch of new suits, in response to Behringer's recent suit. I think those Jerries are going to find Hartley Peavey a very difficult opponent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brian Krashpad Posted May 5, 2011 Author Members Share Posted May 5, 2011 Coudnt happen to two better companies. EG You have a beef with Peavey? I can understand the anti-Behringer animus with all the reverse-engineering claims. I don't know of any reason for people to think ill of Peavey though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr.Grumpy Posted May 5, 2011 Members Share Posted May 5, 2011 The Behringer-related entities currently involved in these suits include: Music Group Services LU SARL, a corporation currently located on Mauritius (an island off the coast of Madagascar); Music Group Services US, Inc., a Washington state corporation; Behringer International GmbH, a German corporation; Behringer Holdings (PTE) Ltd., a Singapore company; Red Chip Company Ltd., a British Virgin Islands corporation; Behringer USA Inc., a Washington state corporation; and Behringer Spezielle Studiotechnik GmbH, a German corporation. Tax havens? No wonder their stuff is so cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elias Graves Posted May 5, 2011 Members Share Posted May 5, 2011 I've not had good experiences with Peavey products. EG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jarick Posted May 5, 2011 Members Share Posted May 5, 2011 Tax havens + reverse engineering other companies' designs + Chinese labor + cutting corners. Like the Walmart of musical equipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brian Krashpad Posted May 5, 2011 Author Members Share Posted May 5, 2011 I've not had good experiences with Peavey products. EG Weird. I have 4 guitars (T-60, Predator Strat, T-40 bass, and Fury bass, all USA), a 5-channel 130W PA amp, and an 8-channel mixing board (and used to own a second, bigger, mixer), and haven't had any problems to speak of. The Strat tuners have a little play, but that's about the worst I could say of any of it, other than it's not sexy/cool, which has pretty much always been the case with Peavey, with the exception of their EVH-related gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Engl Kramer Posted May 5, 2011 Members Share Posted May 5, 2011 On that Premier Guitar page, what is that JM looking thingybob on the right with the steel pickguard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brian Krashpad Posted May 5, 2011 Author Members Share Posted May 5, 2011 On that Premier Guitar page, what is that JM looking thingybob on the right with the steel pickguard? The ads on the page change as the webpage is accessed-- could you post the pic you're seeing in your post here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members photon9 Posted May 5, 2011 Members Share Posted May 5, 2011 I still love my V22. Maybe in 20 years it will be considered a "lawsuit" era amp and I'll get double the current used price. Which should be around 50 bucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Engl Kramer Posted May 5, 2011 Members Share Posted May 5, 2011 This one- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brian Krashpad Posted May 5, 2011 Author Members Share Posted May 5, 2011 This one- It's a Fano, JM6. I like the look of their stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members honeyiscool Posted May 5, 2011 Members Share Posted May 5, 2011 I've not had good experiences with Peavey products. EG Let me guess, you've had one $50 practice amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Engl Kramer Posted May 5, 2011 Members Share Posted May 5, 2011 It's a Fano, JM6. I like the look of their stuff. Thanks Brian. I don't normally like relics or bigsbys but that looks sexy. I will now depress myself by investigating their prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fly_with_v Posted May 5, 2011 Members Share Posted May 5, 2011 I agree, Peavey makes excellent products. There guitars and amps are excellent, escpecially the old EVH stuff. Also, for one poster above, just about everything Behringer does is a ripp off of another companies design. It is the new German way. P.S. I am German so none of the racist {censored}. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members steve_man Posted May 5, 2011 Members Share Posted May 5, 2011 It's about time. Hartley isn't a guy I'd want to mess with. He runs a great company. I don't love all of Peavey's gear...but most of their amps and PA gear are outstanding! It's no secret around here that I'm not a fan of Behringer for the very reasons that Peavey states in this press release. I hope they nail Behringer to the wall... If Behringer wants to make lower-end gear, that's just fine...but come up with your own designs! At least make it look like you are trying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Inazone Posted May 5, 2011 Members Share Posted May 5, 2011 I've owned all kinds of Peavey gear over the past 20+ years, most of it being "good enough" and sometimes fantastic, but product quality isn't the issue here. Behringer has been ripping off other manufacturers' designs for years, and seem to think that this somehow goes unnoticed. If they were making significant improvements to existing products, and paying for the license to use those existing designs, it would be different. Frankly, I'm somewhat surprised that so many big-name retailers continue to sell Behringer products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elias Graves Posted May 5, 2011 Members Share Posted May 5, 2011 Let me guess, you've had one $50 practice amp. You assume much, child. EG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members steve_man Posted May 5, 2011 Members Share Posted May 5, 2011 You assume much, child. EG You had two practice amps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brian Krashpad Posted May 5, 2011 Author Members Share Posted May 5, 2011 You assume much, child. EG Don't tease Alan, what did you own that was messed up? Was it bought new, or used? Inquiring minds wanna know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CoqBelliqueux Posted May 5, 2011 Members Share Posted May 5, 2011 You have a beef with Peavey? +1 American-owned American company who builds products in the USA. What more can you ask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brian Krashpad Posted May 5, 2011 Author Members Share Posted May 5, 2011 Also, for one poster above, just about everything Behringer does is a ripp off of another companies design. It is the new German way.P.S. I am German so none of the racist {censored}. And just for those who don't know me, my use of "Jerries" for "Germans" wasn't meant derogatorily, as I am almost entirely of German descent myself (last name: Kruger; last names of others I'm in direct descent of, in 2 preceding generations: Muller, Schnake, Wolf). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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