Members Shenaniganizer Posted February 16, 2010 Members Share Posted February 16, 2010 Would you? The ad says $350 but he told me $300. I may offer $250. I know nothing about these guitars (seeking input), but for some reason, I'm quite drawn to it. The owner said it's got a 23 3/4" scale. Not too bad, but, shorter than I'm used to. It's also got a Kahler fixed bridge, which is a modification, if I'm not mistaken. He said he got it like that. I've hated every Kahler I've laid my hands on, but I've never experienced their fixed bridges, and hey.. Marty Friedman had one on his signature Jackson, and if it's good enough for him, I don't see why it couldn't be for me. Anyone own(ed) one? What did you think? Is it a good deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mikesr1963 Posted February 16, 2010 Members Share Posted February 16, 2010 Nope, wouldn't touch it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members aclarke Posted February 16, 2010 Members Share Posted February 16, 2010 For 300 I would be all over that. Very underrated guitars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shenaniganizer Posted February 16, 2010 Author Members Share Posted February 16, 2010 Nope, wouldn't touch it. Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PunkKitty Posted February 16, 2010 Members Share Posted February 16, 2010 For 300 I would be all over that. Very underrated guitars.Quoted for truth. I'd jump on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rog951 Posted February 16, 2010 Members Share Posted February 16, 2010 That Kahler kills it for me. Too much $$$ for a Lead II with a hunk of wood routed out of it IMO. If it was original, I'd be all over it though. I had a friend who had a Lead I and a Lead II back in the day. They were kinda cool guitars, actually. I have short fingers so I felt pretty comfortable on the short scale. Funny the things you remember, but my biggest recollection about his guitars was the way the toggle switches felt...they seemed like really beefy switches and had a real positive "clunk" when you switched them. Weird that I remember that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zenbu Posted February 16, 2010 Members Share Posted February 16, 2010 a local shop had one on sale for $800.oo...and it sold...I`d love one but not at the prices they sell for here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zenbu Posted February 16, 2010 Members Share Posted February 16, 2010 OH...should have looked at the pic first...the one I saw had no locking system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members docjeffrey Posted February 16, 2010 Members Share Posted February 16, 2010 Believe it or not, I found a Fender Lead II fan site. http://jfetdel.free.fr/lead/indexEn.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shenaniganizer Posted February 16, 2010 Author Members Share Posted February 16, 2010 Hmmm.. offered him $200. Any other opinions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Guitar Heel Posted February 16, 2010 Members Share Posted February 16, 2010 For 300 I'd hit that ALL DAY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members homestar_kevin Posted February 16, 2010 Members Share Posted February 16, 2010 I'd like to see pics of the bridge, but yeah 300 is a fantastic price. The necks on all the Leads are GREAT! The lead III is the sexiest one though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Guitar Heel Posted February 16, 2010 Members Share Posted February 16, 2010 I'd like to see pics of the bridge, but yeah 300 is a fantastic price. The necks on all the Leads are GREAT! The lead III is the sexiest one though The Lead III is in a league of its own. The Seth Lover pickups are the best HB's I've ever seen from Fender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shenaniganizer Posted February 16, 2010 Author Members Share Posted February 16, 2010 It's a Kahler fixed bridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members harold heckuba Posted February 16, 2010 Members Share Posted February 16, 2010 I had one. I remember it had a nice neck, but I think mine was a strat scale neck. It was a heavy guitar, and the finish was crazing all over. I did some checking at the time and finish problems were very common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members flummox Posted February 16, 2010 Members Share Posted February 16, 2010 Kahler bridge is aftermarket. Looks like somebody put that stupid locking nut on there too. Leads came with bridges similar to a hardtail Strat. All Leads had the standard Strat scale and their necks were interchangeable - many of the maple ones were identical to the first run of vintage reissue Strats. As was the preference then, necks ranged from moderately thin to dental floss with frets. They didn't come with nitro finishes. They came with thick poly finishes that tended to self-destruct in bizarre and sometimes very cool ways. Of course a large number of them will be refins now and that's not considered a drawback. The pickups on the Lead II were X-1 pickups designed for some deluxe edition of the Strat whose name I forget. They're on the hot side and have a very nice bite to them. Aftermarket Strat pups will bolt right in, but the stockers are better than most. The humbuckers that came on the other models are THE {censored} and in my opinion, kick the piss out of the original Wide Range buckers and everything Fender has done since. They're big and ugly and won't fit in a standard sized mount, so there's not much market or hype for them. Honestly, for $250 I'd jump on that. There's no real collector's value if that's what you want, - you could probably make $100 on eBay if you did a good ad, but that's about it. But if you can live with the skinny neck, they're really great fun to play and sound quite nice. The Kahler is inappropriate for this, or any other guitar, but it shouldn't be a problem as long as it in no way functions as designed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TomCray Posted February 16, 2010 Members Share Posted February 16, 2010 I had one. I remember it had a nice neck, but I think mine was a strat scale neck. It was a heavy guitar, and the finish was crazing all over. I did some checking at the time and finish problems were very common. This was mine: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members flummox Posted February 16, 2010 Members Share Posted February 16, 2010 Here was mine: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members harold heckuba Posted February 16, 2010 Members Share Posted February 16, 2010 ^^^^Some good info. Also, FYI the Hard Rock Cafe's first guitar on dispaly was a Lead donated by Eric Clapton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shenaniganizer Posted February 16, 2010 Author Members Share Posted February 16, 2010 I don't see a locking nut on the one I posted, guys. I see a bone nut. How hard would it be to swap a standard hardtail in? Do those Kahler fixed bridges require routing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members treedroppings Posted February 16, 2010 Members Share Posted February 16, 2010 I had a Lead 1 as a second guitar. I dug it with a mitchell pro 100 + 1-12 ev in an oversized and insulated cab. My dorm-mates got tired of Zepellin songs being repeated all day! It lasted until 1988, when I threw it from the second floor to the street. I think Seth Lover or someone made the humbucker. It was $400 brand new with case back in the day, I had a black one , which has alder wood. The wine-red ones are made out of ash wood. They sell for $600 at the local Guitar Showcase, if you can find one (3yrs ago). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TomCray Posted February 16, 2010 Members Share Posted February 16, 2010 I don't see a locking nut on the one I posted, guys. I see a bone nut. How hard would it be to swap a standard hardtail in? Do those Kahler fixed bridges require routing? It was one of those behind the nut nut: I am clueless with Kahlers, I don't even know if its the same model, but looking at this picture it seems like there were no extra routing done, just couple of screw holes, don't take my word for it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shenaniganizer Posted February 16, 2010 Author Members Share Posted February 16, 2010 I hope he takes my offer. I'm very interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members akapuli Posted February 16, 2010 Members Share Posted February 16, 2010 No. Once a beginner guitar butchered by semi-pro luthier is a no in my book for that price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shenaniganizer Posted February 16, 2010 Author Members Share Posted February 16, 2010 Dammit. He sold it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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