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Just out of curiousity (electric guitar noob here) what would be the difference between that fake Gibson, and say a similar Epiphone model?

 

 

Hard to say. There have been rumors that some of these fake Gibsons are being made at Epiphone facilities in China. I haven't seen any proof of that, but photos of the wiring cavities of some of these fakes do look very similar to Epiphones. Reviews of these 'Chibsons' run the gamut from "pretty good for $300" to "about what I expected for $300".

 

The important difference between them is that the Epiphone is a legally licensed copy of the Gibson Les Paul. The other is counterfeit made and sold under fradulent means.

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I just remembered a time I went into ap pawn shop and they had a really nice Gibson Les Paul Gold Top behind the counter. I asked the guy to look at it, and the guy handed it me and said "That's a not a real Les Paul. It's a Chinese copy." Pretty straight up info from a pawn shop guy.

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Wow, the fakes are getting closer. The only two glaring things I noticed about that (other than the price) are the bridge and the pickguard is beveled on the edges. The headstock is slightly off, but way closer than what it used to be. They even got the truss rod cover down to 2 screws like a real Gibson.

 

The other problem with selling/buying these is that somewhere down the road, even if YOU know it's fake, you may sell it to someone who then sells it to someone else for $1200 claiming it's real. Best to keep these out of circulation so some 18 yr old kid doesn't get scammed out of $1000+ buying his first "real" guitar.

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Read the text of the ad and it's pretty obvious it's a Chinese company like Tradetang. I once saw a fake Gibson LP Standard at the local used guitar shop. The owner of the shop didn't have it on display and he would not sell it in his shop (apparently it's illegal). I don't know were he got it but it was a pretty bad fake. He brought it out to show me since we were talking about the fake Gibsons seen on Tradetang.

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Yeah, you can tell that one is fake. If you look at the picture of the headstock that shows a bit of the neck, you'll see the frets aren't sanded down on the edge of the neck. Gibson always sands their's down right at the edge of the neck though.

 

The one curious thing about it is that "Les Paul" on the headstock is surprisingly well done for a fake.

 

Odds are fake, buy at your own risk.

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The frets dont have the binding over the edges -

the serial number is stamped through the lacquer (gibsons are stamped brfore lacquering),

The pickguard is flared at the end,

Nut is too fat and doesnt look like bone,

headstock doesnt tilt back at the right angle,

Gibson logo is not at the right angle -

The Les Paul Fonts are rwong -

The headstock appears top be narrow if it isnt a photo problem.

Gibson isnt usingt those cheap TOM bridges any more and they dont have reversed saddels on the low strings,

The truss cover is single layered and the fonts are wrong

 

Check these sites out.

 

http://guitarless.com/2010/05/buyer-beware-fakegenuine-les-paul-photo-comparison/

 

http://www.gibson.com/en-us/Lifestyle/Features/CounterfeitGibsons/

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Looks like they're not so great at cloning afterall.. I've never seen the skunk stripe on the front before.


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:facepalm: Thats a good one. Seems like organized crime in china will stick a label on anything if some stupid american kid is stupid enough to buy it.

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Thats a good one. Seems like organized crime in china will stick a label on anything if some stupid american kid is stupid enough to buy it.

 

I have some really bad news for you.........

those gits aren't being sold by the chinese mafia.

The chinese will fake everything, from purses to watches to guitars to make up.

 

I'm sure everyone including the govt. knows about it. a couple years ago they raided ONE warehouse. I don't know if anyone served time.

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Heres another one.

You can see they are painting the headstocks now so you cant see the how the necks are graphted on.

This one hasnt even got a toggel switch plate. You can see how they punch through the lacquer for the serial numbers too.

 

http://www.ioffer.com/i/gray-les-paul-custom-electric-guitar-474465040

 

A custom for $190? yea right

http://www.ioffer.com/i/perfect-gibsons-les-paul-custom-electric-guitar-473511540

 

An ES335 for $230 with a fake Bigsby and white serial numbers? Dont think so

http://www.ioffer.com/i/gibsons-es-335-red-tremolo-jazz-electric-guitar-475308968

 

An L-5, same deal generic tuners on this one.

http://www.ioffer.com/i/gibsons-l-5-ces-archtop-jazz-guitar-l5-ces-l-5-ces-476807302

 

Ever see a red custom? Check out the back cover position.

http://www.ioffer.com/i/gibsons-les-paul-custom-electric-guitar-no-g35-476875058

 

How bout this beautiful graphted rosewood neck? Love the square burst on the back too, that should be real convincing

you got the real deal.

http://www.ioffer.com/i/1958-gibson-es-335-jazz-electric-guitar-472426776

 

Bad gold paint job?

http://www.ioffer.com/i/gibson-custom-shop-57-les-paul-gold-top-vos-guitar-203124548

 

Real convincing pickguard

http://www.ioffer.com/i/fender-precision-electric-bass-guitar-472497378

 

How bout a PRS with a botched finish?

http://www.ioffer.com/i/paul-reed-smith-prs-blue-electric-guitar-472498204

 

Headstock, tuners, and beveled body on this tele are going to convice others

http://www.ioffer.com/i/2011-new-fender-telecaster-yellow-electric-guitar-no-f9-475026070

 

 

Cheezy import tuners with Plastic bushings? Square Headstock and white plastic pickups.

Super cheezy fret job. That cheap plastic binding is really going to fool everybody.

http://www.ioffer.com/i/gibson-les-paul-deluxe-limited-edition-wine-flame-203152328

 

That one is no wheres close to my real paul. [ATTACH=CONFIG]337845[/ATTACH]

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I have some really bad news for you.........

those gits aren't being sold by the chinese mafia.

The chinese will fake everything, from purses to watches to guitars to make up.


I'm sure everyone including the govt. knows about it. a couple years ago they raided ONE warehouse. I don't know if anyone served time.

 

 

I didnt say Mafia, I said organized crime. Crime is organized any time it isnt random, and since the entire moraless country is doing it you can kind of call that an organized attempt to fleece the rest of the world.

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Hard to say. There have been rumors that some of these fake Gibsons are being made at Epiphone facilities in China. I haven't seen any proof of that, but photos of the wiring cavities of some of these fakes do look very similar to Epiphones. Reviews of these 'Chibsons' run the gamut from "pretty good for $300" to "about what I expected for $300".


The important difference between them is that the Epiphone is a legally licensed copy of the Gibson Les Paul. The other is counterfeit made and sold under fradulent means.

 

 

Given that Gibson OWNS the Epi factories in China, it's unlikely they come from there. The plant manager is from Tennessee.

 

EG

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