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    What are your opinions on the Gibson SG vs. the ESP Viper?
    Why would you choose one over the other?



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    I think you'll get more of a full tone on the Gibson.

    I just recently picked up the EC400 (LP shaped) ESP with the Duncans. Nice, but it loses it a bit on the lower spectrum. The EMGs of course are a different animal so it would be hard to contrast that with the Gibson.

    The ESP might be a bit better suited for metal and the Gibson might fit classic rock a bit better than the ESP.
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    • #3
      ive owned both.....i liked both.....but the gibson is slightly better in all areas unless you NEED 24 frets, which i did not. I liked the sound of each, but they were very different, and if i could only have one (which happened to be the case) the gibson wins.

      But i only miss 2 guitars i ever sold (and there have been quite a few) and the viper was one of them.

      really, you cant go wrong, but IMO the gibson wins in every way
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      • #4
        LTDs and ESPs are two totally different things. The Gibson wins over the LTD Viper, but the ESP Viper would smoke the Gibson, imo.

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        • #5
          Get the ESP. At least it comes in other colors than Black and Red

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          • #6


            The ESP might be a bit better suited for metal and the Gibson might fit classic rock a bit better than the ESP.



            I think this is what would sway me...even if ESP has stolen the body shape from the Eggle Iommi!
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            • #7
              LTDs and ESPs are two totally different things. The Gibson wins over the LTD Viper, but the ESP Viper would smoke the Gibson, imo.


              DOH! this is true, mine was LTD, and still came very close the gibson. The ESP probably is better.

              One other thing, is that the viper is almost twice as thick, and therefore almost twice as heavy, but not nearly as neck heavy....these are good things IMO...still getting used to how thin the SG is.
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              • #8
                2 points:
                1. Comparing Gibson to ESP is not the same as comparing Gibson to ESP LTD (LTD is their lower line). I bet the ESP uses better woods than the LTD and thus likely has better resonance and sound.

                2. ESP has a neck volute so the neck is much less likely to snap off (which is relatively common on SGs)




                One other thing, is that the viper is almost twice as thick, and therefore almost twice as heavy


                The Vipers are heavier but not twice as heavy: Gibson 5-6 lbs Viper 7-8 lbs.
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                • #9
                  Funny how people's thinking is -- the Gibson better suited for classic rock? WTF?
                  SGs are one of the mainstays of metal in the past and to this day. You want to hear some heavy ass stuff, listen to Down or COC for instance. Huge numbers of doom bands use SGs, and there is little else that is that heavy on this planet as say Electric Wizard or Devil to Pay (who play SGs). Can't forget even the new Sabbath stuff. Hardly classic rock. Lots of the more modern bands are using SGs as well.
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                  • #10
                    My comments and I believe those of others weren't at all that you don't use an SG for metal. But having recently bought an ESP EC400, I was hearing more blaring mids and highs than I hear on my 4 SGs, but less bass. That's what I was referring to. And that ESP tone I'm hearing combined with high gain => a good match for metal. I also have an early MIJ ESP "The Eclipse" w 81s and it's also better toned for high gain applications. I mean, I've heard some very tasty clips here on HCEG of a '51 being used for metal so no comments should be viewed as excluding.
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                    • #11
                      The ESP Viper looks nicer than the Gibson SG Standard.

                      The Gibson SG Supreme, however, totally destroys the ESP Viper looks-wise. Even the Custom Series ones.

                      And it has 24 frets.
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                      • #12
                        i'd say the gibson just because it's body is really nice. thin, and light.

                        though i wish gibson made an sg that had 24 frets then i'd be all over it.
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                        • #13
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                          • #14

                            though i wish gibson made an sg that had 24 frets then i'd be all over it.


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                            • #15

                              The Vipers are heavier but not twice as heavy: Gibson 5-6 lbs Viper 7-8 lbs.



                              well, if i take 5 and 8 im pretty close
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