Members steve_man Posted May 30, 2011 Members Share Posted May 30, 2011 Okay...I like the tone I'm getting out of my Hot Rod Deluxe. Sold the original speaker out of it, and put a Celestion 70/80 in it. I like the tones...but this has me curious. What speakers have you guys used in the Hot Rod series amps? Do you have any clips? Would be interested to hear your perspective on the different speakers. Would need to have great clean tone, but also work well with distortion (pedals). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sheraton Posted May 30, 2011 Members Share Posted May 30, 2011 I've gone English and American and the HRD adapts well to either. I put JJ 6V6's in it and a Vintage 30 and it really brought out the mids. I think my favourite was an Eminence Texas Heat that tightened up the flabby bottom but still emphasized the full tonal range and handled distortion fantastically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members akapuli Posted May 30, 2011 Members Share Posted May 30, 2011 The only variation I liked from this amp was a Weber Alnico speaker combined with the Tube Amp Doctor Attenuator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members monto Posted May 30, 2011 Members Share Posted May 30, 2011 V30 for life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hardtdc Posted May 30, 2011 Members Share Posted May 30, 2011 I've read that Dave at Omega Amps recommends the Cannabis Rex. I would tend to trust his advice since he is well known for his mods of the HRDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bro Blue Posted May 30, 2011 Members Share Posted May 30, 2011 Weber F-12150, right number IIRC. Had one in mine, was great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members scolfax Posted May 30, 2011 Members Share Posted May 30, 2011 I put a Jensen P12N in mine and it really sounded great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Belva Posted May 30, 2011 Members Share Posted May 30, 2011 Subjective thread is subjective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wyatt Posted May 30, 2011 Members Share Posted May 30, 2011 For clean and dirty, I would lean toward one of the C12N/British hybrids. Reverend really put them on the map with the Alltone 1250, but they don't sell 'em anymore. A Weber 12A/F150B is their Vintage Series version, but I've heard their Sig 12 budget speaker is a C12N/British hybrid as well. Others that may be worth looking at are the Eminence Private jack and Warehouse G12C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hurtzher Posted May 30, 2011 Members Share Posted May 30, 2011 Eminence Red, White, and Blues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members caveman Posted May 30, 2011 Members Share Posted May 30, 2011 I like the JJs and Vintage 30 combo and use it in both my HRD and BDri. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jtr654 Posted May 30, 2011 Members Share Posted May 30, 2011 It's not what speaker is best. It is what style of music are you looking to play through this amp. Than we would have a better chance at telling you what speakers will sound best for those types of tones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cratz2 Posted May 30, 2011 Members Share Posted May 30, 2011 I'd go with a ceramic Weber Michigan for a 50/50 mix of great cleans and great gain tones. It's a bit bottom heavy so if you mostly use HBs and tend to dial in some chunk, you'll have to dial it out with the Michigan. If you lean more towards cleans and cranked power tube tones rather than preamp dirt and pedal dirt, the Weber 12A150 would get my vote though I'd NOT get it for AC/DC and higher amounts of gain. Doc Morbius had a tweed Hot Rod Deluxe for a while with the P12N and it sounded a lot better than a stock HRD, but I think the 12A150 and 12F150 sound similar, but just more responsive and more balanced. Unless you were comparing them back to back, there's probably not really a tremendous difference, but I'd go for one of the Webers over the current Italian Jensen jobbies. I also really like the Silver Bell, but it adds enough of its own character that I can understand why some folks wouldn't like it. For Fender cleans and Tweed-ish levels of cranked-ness, you can do a whole lot worse in my opinion. For cleans, any of these will absolutely KILL the Seventy 80. The Seventy 80 is pretty good for gain tones, but pretty lacking for cleans and 'cranked clean' tones which are my bread and butter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members steve_man Posted May 30, 2011 Author Members Share Posted May 30, 2011 yeah, grabbed the Seventy 80 because I could get it for a good price. Big improvement (IMO) over the stock speaker. I have heard a lot of people suggest the Cannibus Rex. I'm not really wanting serious vintage tone... I play mostly in church these days, so I'm not doing a lot of high-gain stuff. Mostly light to moderate breakup...usually using pedals or my M13. Not a huge fan of the Hot Rod's gain channel. However, I've owned a couple Hot Rods...and I like them. Just kinda looking to tinker around with it a bit, as I bought it used...and feel like it would be okay. My AC15, however...can't bring myself to touch that one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kayd_mon Posted May 30, 2011 Members Share Posted May 30, 2011 I think that an Eminence Swamp Thang would sound good in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members iblastoff Posted May 30, 2011 Members Share Posted May 30, 2011 i use my stock fender hot rod deluxe (the old version with the eminence legend) with a 2x12 avatar cab with celestion v30s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaleH Posted May 30, 2011 Members Share Posted May 30, 2011 Eminence Legend GB128 pretty good all around speaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kayd_mon Posted May 30, 2011 Members Share Posted May 30, 2011 Eminence Legend GB128 pretty good all around speaker. I've got one of those in a Blues Jr. Sounds great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members datru Posted May 30, 2011 Members Share Posted May 30, 2011 I put a Jensen P12N in mine and it really sounded great. +1. I have the tweed edition that came out some time ago with this Jensen Alnico speaker. I really like the sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members twotimingpete Posted May 30, 2011 Members Share Posted May 30, 2011 the new IIIs come with a celesion G12P-80. wonder how this compares to the previous stocker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bsman Posted May 30, 2011 Members Share Posted May 30, 2011 For some reason a lot of people seem to rag on the Seventy/80, but I've found it to be a very decent speaker that doesn't end up costing as much as an amp. I know some of you may be shocked, but I think there may be just a bit of snobbery and cork-sniffery in the speaker world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members steve_man Posted May 31, 2011 Author Members Share Posted May 31, 2011 good question... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members laserdanger Posted May 31, 2011 Members Share Posted May 31, 2011 I've run mine with the stock Eminence speaker and my 2x12 cab at the same time and got interesting results. The Eminence helped retain that more traditional Fender sound while the Celestions (g12h30 and V30) helped bring out some more aggressive mids. With just V30 and G12h30 it shifts the voicing considerably. It has that distinct Celestion feel so depending on style that may be a good thing? I prefer the Celestions over the stock Eminence. Great cleans and helps get some more clarity out of stock dirt channel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members steve_man Posted May 31, 2011 Author Members Share Posted May 31, 2011 Yeah, I like the Celestion in mine...however, I had some Eminence Private Jacks in my AC50, and they sounded great... Wish there was a shop with a wall of speakers you could plug into to try them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members laserdanger Posted May 31, 2011 Members Share Posted May 31, 2011 Yeah, I like the Celestion in mine...however, I had some Eminence Private Jacks in my AC50, and they sounded great... Wish there was a shop with a wall of speakers you could plug into to try them out. This would be the single most amazing gift anyone could give guitarists. Buying speakers is such a crap-shoot since it's impossible to realistically try them out within the confines of your rig, or even next to one another. This makes the market ripe for snake-oil like tactics on selling speakers. If most car audio stores and wal-mart can figure out how to put multiple speakers for users to test out I would imagine Guitar Center could as well. Get the staples from eminence and Celestion in a similar set up. At least at their flagship stores. I would drive 60 miles just to get the chance to try out many speakers head to head in a semi-controlled scenario. This is off topic. Continue on gentleman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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