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  • Fender Blues Jr vs. Fender Pro Junior vs. Fender Princeton 65

    I'm looking to find a light weight amp that's in the $300 price range that meets this criteria:

    1) Can be used for small gigs
    2) Can play clean tones at louder volumes and not distort
    3) Won't really be used for heavy stuff....think jazzy and some blues/early rock and roll
    4) i have some pedals to use with it.

    So who wins in the Fender Blues Jr vs Fender Pro Junior vs. Fender Pronceton 65 battle to meet my four criteria above?

    Or do you know another amp that might fit this criteria better?

    Thanks again
    "Quit analyzing frequency responses...it's about feeling, son."
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  • #2
    I asked a similar question a few days ago and got some great feedback. Here's my short list:

    Peavey Delta Blues
    Tech 21 Trademark 60
    Egnater Tweaker
    Fender Blues Junior
    Roland JC-120

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    • #3
      I have a Blues Jr. Not the most Fender-y sounding amp ever and is just barely big enough to play a bar. Does not stay clean all the way up. If I have the volume maxed, I'll start to get OD at about 4-5 on the master. I guess it depends on how loud and how clean you want it. To me, it's acceptable (barely) for a small gig.

      That amp is actually my son's, but I use it quite a bit. When he leaves home next year (I hope) I'll look for something a little bigger. Maybe a Deluxe.

      Can't speak to the others you mentioned.

      EG
      We're not in Kansas anymore.

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      • #4
        If you need clean headroom, don't go for the Pro Jr. Great little amp that sings with some sweet tube distortion as you crank it, but it starts to get a little dirt in the tone at moderate volume levels so it won't fit your requirement #2.
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        • #5
          I own both Pro JR. and a real 1965 PR. I'ld go Pro Jr. used around $200 stays clean to about 4 , 20 pounds 15 watts. The Pr has more clean headroom but weight more and cost More $700 + used also around 15 watts. For $700 you can buy a vintage Twin Reverb but they 're 80 +lb.I tried the Blues Jr and didn't like it as much as the Pr Jr.

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          • #6
            The Pro Junior sounds the best of them all, but will not stay clean at all.

            If you don't care about solid state vs. tube, you should probably go with a high-wattage solid state amp. The Roland sounds perfect for what you're looking for, but it's heavy as hell. I like Tech 21's stuff, but also check out ZT amps.
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            • #7
              I love the Fender Pro Jr. I changed the stock speaker for a Jensen P10R Alnico and it made it sound mean.

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              • #8
                Check out Jeff Beck playing at a Les Paul tribute through a Pro Jr.

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                • #9
                  SCXD.
                  Besides being a guitar player,
                  I'm a big fan of the guitar.
                  I love that damn instrument.
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                  • #10
                    The JC-120 is big, heavy and noisy (solid state hiss).

                    I had a solid stat Fender Princeton 650 that was so noisy I had to put a compressor in the effects loop to act as a master volume control. I don't think the Princeton 65 is as bad. I have a Deluxe 90 DSP that is from the same era as the Princeton 65 and it is okay for gigs and definitely has the Fender Clean thing going.

                    One of the locals here used to use a Princeton 65 and the overdrive on that amp was awful but it was easy to carry around. One of the nice things about solid state is the portability.


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                    • #11
                      I asked a similar question a few days ago and got some great feedback. Here's my short list:

                      Peavey Delta Blues
                      Tech 21 Trademark 60
                      Egnater Tweaker
                      Fender Blues Junior
                      Roland JC-120


                      The Peavey Delta Blues or Classic 30 will do everything you ask, although keep in mind that tube amps are a little heavy by nature. The Classic is the slightly lighter of the two.

                      I owned a Blues Jr as my first amp and it almost turned me off to tube amps forever. I played other tube amps after that and immediately learned how much the Blues Jr. sucked. I was only a beginner and bought it based on other beginners recommendations. That was a huge mistake. There are so many better choices available on the market. Two happiest days were the one I bought it and the day I got rid of that boxy, fizzy, sounding POS.

                      I tried both the Classic and the Delta Blues in stores. Both sounded great right out of the box. Brought home the Classic but later regretted not buying the Delta, thinking it sounded a bit better with it's stock 15 inch speaker. That was until I upgraded the factory speaker in the Classic. With a matched set of JJs and a sweet NOS 5751 in V1, the Classic just sings. That plus a Weber alnico Silver Bell, turns the Classic into a very, very serious amp with incredibly warm, organic cleans and fantastic, paper ripping tone when it starts to breaking up. It's perfect for the styles you mentioned.

                      Heads up though, it gets very loud before breaking up but the transition is smooth and it takes pedals very well. I hardly ever get a chance to turn it up that loud but that's ok since it sounds good and full at lower volumes too. I run a Boss GT8 through it and can get any tone I want at any volume. I can plug in straight too and it's still outstanding. I imagine a modded Delta would be fantastic as well. You should be able to buy used in the $300 to $400 range.

                      The only way I could imagine the Classic could be better is if it had tube rectifier to get that nice note bloom. The only amp I've owned that I think possibly sounded better was a Dr Z Carmen Ghia, although I much prefer the Classic's versatility. The Carmen Ghia was a one trick pony, although it did that one trick very well.

                      Don't make the same mistake I did. Go visit stores with your guitar in hand and try as many amps as you can. Play the cheap ones and the most expensive ones as well since they'll teach you what to listen for. After that, focus on your price range and if possible, go used. You can't go wrong with a Classic.

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                      • #12
                        I owned a Blues Jr as my first amp and it almost turned me off to tube amps forever. I played other tube amps after that and immediately learned how much the Blues Jr. sucked. I was only a beginner and bought it based on other beginners recommendations. That was a huge mistake. There are so many better choices available on the market. Two happiest days were the one I bought it and the day I got rid of that boxy, fizzy, sounding POS.


                        The Blues Jr. is actually quite a good and versatile amp. Maybe it is just not a good amp for a beginner. I always recommended a Fender Champ for my students because small tube amps really help develop the connection between the fingers and the guitar. After all, tone is in the fingers.


                        you can't control the wind but you can learn to sail

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                        • #13
                          I really think that a Classic 30 with something like a Weber Blue Dog or Silver Bell is likely the best value in an easily attainable used amp. These sound pretty good stock but a proper speaker is a BIG upgrade. A Greenback or G12H30 is great for moderate to dirty tones but the Blue Dog and Silver Bell sound really great both clean and with a decent amount of gain. Blue Dog if you want warmth and some chime, Silver Bell if want more bottom end, more warmth and less chime.

                          The Pro Jr is NOT about staying clean at gig levels so that would be out. I had a Blues Jr that I lightly upgraded and I didn't hate it. The Blues Jr and Princeton reissue both sound kinda small to me in a way that the DRRI and the Classic 30. I'd say unless you are unable to carry a 50lb amp because of back issues, I'd step up to that range for gigging if you want a chance of staying clean with a drummer.
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                          • #14
                            BoneNut,

                            Would you happen to have a video of some demo of your tone? Kinda curious on the amp you are using.
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                            • #15
                              I really think that a Classic 30 with something like a Weber Blue Dog or Silver Bell is likely the best value in an easily attainable used amp. These sound pretty good stock but a proper speaker is a BIG upgrade. A Greenback or G12H30 is great for moderate to dirty tones but the Blue Dog and Silver Bell sound really great both clean and with a decent amount of gain. Blue Dog if you want warmth and some chime, Silver Bell if want more bottom end, more warmth and less chime.

                              The Pro Jr is NOT about staying clean at gig levels so that would be out. I had a Blues Jr that I lightly upgraded and I didn't hate it. The Blues Jr and Princeton reissue both sound kinda small to me in a way that the DRRI and the Classic 30. I'd say unless you are unable to carry a 50lb amp because of back issues, I'd step up to that range for gigging if you want a chance of staying clean with a drummer.


                              IMHO, the Pro jr can do both clean and dirty providing of course the right dirt box and using your guitar's volume control. It takes dirt boxes better than the Blues jr IMHO.

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