Members and Posted January 1, 2012 Members Share Posted January 1, 2012 Basically I need to find a set of tuners that would keep my guitar in tune when playing live, it seems like I have to tune between each song these days. I have GFS tuners on a couple of my guitars (Les Paul copies), but those don't seem to hold tune that much better than stock tuners. Any recommendations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members aliensporebomb Posted January 1, 2012 Members Share Posted January 1, 2012 I'm running Grover Imperials on my Ibanez Artist and they work very well. They look swanky too: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Meowy Posted January 1, 2012 Members Share Posted January 1, 2012 Grover kluson green keys. Around $40 from stewmac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members catalinagooseV2 Posted January 1, 2012 Members Share Posted January 1, 2012 My Les Paul has the stock Kluson tuners and it stays in tune during gigs. What tuners does you LP have? A lot of different things can affect the ability of a guitar to stay in tune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GreatDane Posted January 1, 2012 Members Share Posted January 1, 2012 my two cents (take it or leave it) is; before worrying about new tuners, take a look at how you're stringing your guitar first. 99% of the time, in my experience, poor tuning stability is not due to faulty tuners, but due to how the new strings are wound around the tuning peg when re-stringing. there are a number of really good tutorials on youtube that show how to do it. it's a cheap solution to most tuning stability issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jhorne Posted January 1, 2012 Members Share Posted January 1, 2012 my two cents (take it or leave it) is; before worrying about new tuners, take a look at how you're stringing your guitar first. 99% of the time, in my experience, poor tuning stability is not due to faulty tuners, but due to how the new strings are wound around the tuning peg when re-stringing. there are a number of really good tutorials on youtube that show how to do it. it's a cheap solution to most tuning stability issues. This. More often than not, tuning issues are not caused by your tuners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members and Posted January 1, 2012 Author Members Share Posted January 1, 2012 I'll have to look into re-stringing differently, sounds like that might be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members keithcar Posted January 1, 2012 Members Share Posted January 1, 2012 always had this problem, you would bend a string or do a neck bend or something and you would hear a "ping" and the string would go way flat, or sometimes even sharp, retuning it would not solve anything because the next bend you do would bring the pitch back where it was before. i was stringing my guitar all wrong..i started doing the over-under wrap thing,--and a pinch of lube on the nut, problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bubbluz Posted January 1, 2012 Members Share Posted January 1, 2012 the "ping" you here is the string binding in the nut,get the nut issues solved and 95% of the tuning issues disappear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OU8124ME Posted January 2, 2012 Members Share Posted January 2, 2012 Grover's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dabbler Posted January 2, 2012 Members Share Posted January 2, 2012 the "ping" you here is the string binding in the nut,get the nut issues solved and 95% of the tuning issues disappear. This ^. BUUUUT if you still want to get new tuners, these rock: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessories/planet-waves-auto-trim-tuning-machines-3-per-side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tweak'd Posted January 2, 2012 Members Share Posted January 2, 2012 If you end up needing new tuners, I'd also recommend green key klusons... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members noisebloom Posted January 2, 2012 Members Share Posted January 2, 2012 I prefer good old Grover Rotomatics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members flummox Posted January 2, 2012 Members Share Posted January 2, 2012 The stock tuners are fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jimash Posted January 2, 2012 Members Share Posted January 2, 2012 For myself, I wrap as little string as possible around the tuning post.This makes the Les Paul stay in tune, even though my mid-70's tuners are crap.Put on Grovers and use as little wrap as possible, and it will stay for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members smorgdonkey Posted January 2, 2012 Members Share Posted January 2, 2012 They look swanky too: Funny...when you typed 'skanky', it came out as 'swanky'. Pretty odd. To the OP:As others are eluding to...it isn't the tuners. Proper stringing, always tuning UP to a note, and properly cut nut will do the deed. New tuners will just cost you more money and you'll still have the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GibsonVMan Posted January 2, 2012 Members Share Posted January 2, 2012 Helpful vid: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Alecto Posted January 2, 2012 Members Share Posted January 2, 2012 I'd also recommend looking at the nut before swapping out the tuners. Back when I owned a Les Paul, the tuning hassles used to drive me crazy until I swapped out the regular POS nut for a bone nut. After that the guitar was completely stable, although a Hamer Studio quickly sent it out the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members scottgd Posted January 2, 2012 Members Share Posted January 2, 2012 I prefer good old Grover Rotomatics. For no other reason then cosmetics. I've had no tuning issues with the stock tuners but I like the look of the Rotomatics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gremson Posted January 2, 2012 Members Share Posted January 2, 2012 I've got the stock Grover tuners on my Les Paul. I had some tuning issues and had a new nut put on. It's near perfect now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Steadfastly Posted January 2, 2012 Members Share Posted January 2, 2012 Something in the 18:1 ratio. I believe there is a higher ratio (and lower) but 18:1 will hold their tune for you. Most of the higher end guitars come with these for that reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members noisebloom Posted January 3, 2012 Members Share Posted January 3, 2012 For no other reason then cosmetics. I've had no tuning issues with the stock tuners but I like the look of the Rotomatics. It's mostly aesthetic for me, too. I've never liked the Kluson tulip tuners. Grovers are more compact and they feel better to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members photon9 Posted January 3, 2012 Members Share Posted January 3, 2012 I would listen to anyone that didn't recommend new tuners. I've never had a problem with tuners except on the most cheaply made guitars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaleH Posted January 3, 2012 Members Share Posted January 3, 2012 Robot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ermghoti II Posted January 3, 2012 Members Share Posted January 3, 2012 Something in the 18:1 ratio. I believe there is a higher ratio (and lower) but 18:1 will hold their tune for you. Most of the higher end guitars come with these for that reason. Ratio has nothing to do with holding tune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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