Members johnnyl80 Posted January 25, 2012 Members Share Posted January 25, 2012 Soundwise I'd need enough sparkle & clarity to do a decent rockabilly impersonification (my band's sound is something between the classic 50s tones and the more modern "revival" ones), and at the same time enough fatness & body for a hard rock/classic metal project I'm starting with a couple friends (think Accept, Judas Priest, Motorhead, etc.)... And I need it to look "adequate" to both situations too - I just won't play a rockabilly gig with a neon green Ibanez RG! ... Does something like this even exist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HotRats Posted January 25, 2012 Members Share Posted January 25, 2012 http://www.guitarcenter.com/Ibanez-AS73B-Semi-Hollow-Electric-Guitar-516490-i2202777.gc?&source=4WFRWXX&CAWELAID=1056469080 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Faber Posted January 25, 2012 Members Share Posted January 25, 2012 How about a HSS strat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members billythegoat Posted January 25, 2012 Members Share Posted January 25, 2012 SG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members craigny Posted January 25, 2012 Members Share Posted January 25, 2012 Tele!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members csm Posted January 25, 2012 Members Share Posted January 25, 2012 I need it to look "adequate" to both situations too - I just won't play a rockabilly gig with a neon green Ibanez RG! How about a red Jackson? (I THINK it's a Jackson ...) [video=youtube;kzuPIHaC5Wo] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Faber Posted January 25, 2012 Members Share Posted January 25, 2012 based on the headstock I would guess that's either an Anderson or a (Pensa) Suhr. And a good example that you can play anything on any guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SGRocker30 Posted January 25, 2012 Members Share Posted January 25, 2012 It's called a les paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dr_Kuh Posted January 25, 2012 Members Share Posted January 25, 2012 I would recommend Music Man! Either this one: Or the Axis: [video=youtube;rVBMm3xX8wQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVBMm3xX8wQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Edward Posted January 25, 2012 Members Share Posted January 25, 2012 A decent, regular SSS Strat or a Tele. Both have a long pedigree of being used as stock in that sort of classic rock/metal stuff, and for all people nowadays thing of Gretsches and the likes as "rockabilly guitars", many if not far more of the original rockabilly records were laid down with Fender's two biggies as what are now thought of as the (stereo)typical rockabilly guitars. [video=youtube;qJK_RReJl2U] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FoonkySteve Posted January 25, 2012 Members Share Posted January 25, 2012 I thought 'Tele' was the answer to everything?? But yeah, i would go with a Black out H/H Tele This one in black: http://www.fender.com/en-GB/products/search.php?partno=0142002300 or without trem: http://www.fender.com/en-GB/products/search.php?partno=0137702306 Blacktop - this is prob the best bet: http://www.fender.com/en-GB/products/blacktop/models.php?prodNo=014820 Cheaper option: http://www.fender.com/en-GB/products/search.php/?partno=0327502506 I've got this in black transparent, a lil different, with p90s but it kicks fooking tits! http://www.fender.com/en-GB/products/modernplayer/models.php?prodNo=0241202 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mo' Cowbell Posted January 25, 2012 Members Share Posted January 25, 2012 Gretsch White Falcon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BigTimeFun Posted January 25, 2012 Members Share Posted January 25, 2012 A decent, regular SSS Strat or a Tele. Both have a long pedigree of being used as stock in that sort of classic rock/metal stuff, and for all people nowadays thing of Gretsches and the likes as "rockabilly guitars", many if not far more of the original rockabilly records were laid down with Fender's two biggies as what are now thought of as the (stereo)typical rockabilly guitars. /snip This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jonPhillips Posted January 25, 2012 Members Share Posted January 25, 2012 Gretsch White Falcon. This is the best answer by far. Here's what Billy Duffy has to say... [video=youtube;d_f-VJdAzwA] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vintage clubber Posted January 25, 2012 Members Share Posted January 25, 2012 +1 on this one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members photon9 Posted January 25, 2012 Members Share Posted January 25, 2012 All of the suggestions so far are correct! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members johnnyl80 Posted January 25, 2012 Author Members Share Posted January 25, 2012 Wouldn't HSS Strats, Superstrats, SG, Music Man, Axis be all too modern (esp. looking) for rockabilly? Maybe I just give too much importance to this kind of details - I bet no one in the audience would ever care... The "right" looking Les Paul or a White Falcon would indeed be perfect, but they're both a bit too rich for me at the moment... Maybe a Bigsby'd Studio or something like that... In the end, although I've never been a Fender fan, I must admit that the Tele or (S/S/S) Strat is maybe my main option at the moment... My only concern (being a PAF - and lately P90 - fan) are those "weak" single coils, although I know many players have used them with success in the hard rock/heavy metal realm before... I've been even thinking about putting a mini humbucker in the bridge of a Tele, or directly getting the Yamaha Mike Stern model, but then I don't know if such a pickup setup would give me the right tone for rockabilly... Blacktop Tele is a good one - and maybe some other humbucker or P90 equipped model... Hmmm... (Please keep 'em suggestions comin' ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LARRY L Posted January 25, 2012 Members Share Posted January 25, 2012 Guild Starfire III. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mel Cooley Posted January 25, 2012 Members Share Posted January 25, 2012 I would pick a Les Paul with PAF type pickups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Edward Posted January 25, 2012 Members Share Posted January 25, 2012 Wouldn't HSS Strats, Superstrats, SG, Music Man, Axis be all too modern (esp. looking) for rockabilly? Maybe I just give too much importance to this kind of details - I bet no one in the audience would ever care... No, I think that's important. Most things people on here go on and on about incessantly (tubes vs modellers, tyes of pup, sound, fingerboard material..... whatever), the average punter won't give a stuff about. Image, however - even if your image is that horrendously pretentious "I don't have an image, I'm just me" nonsense - really counts for an audience, and the biggest part of that is "looking the part". Just as some guitarists can hear how good a guitar is form the logo or shape of the headstock, many regular punters won't get you if your a "Fifties" band and don't "look sorta fifties" (course, the average punter has little lue of that with any accuracy, but that's another matter). Me, I've always liked the idea of being decidedly incongruous. Always wanted to start a punk band where we all go on stage in immaculate Thirties suits - but that won't always work for an audience. The "right" looking Les Paul or a White Falcon would indeed be perfect, but they're both a bit too rich for me at the moment... Maybe a Bigsby'd Studio or something like that... An LP certainly wouldn't be my choice, but then I don't really like them. Or humbuckers so.. In the end, although I've never been a Fender fan, I must admit that the Tele or (S/S/S) Strat is maybe my main option at the moment... My only concern (being a PAF - and lately P90 - fan) are those "weak" single coils, although I know many players have used them with success in the hard rock/heavy metal realm before... I've been even thinking about putting a mini humbucker in the bridge of a Tele, or directly getting the Yamaha Mike Stern model, but then I don't know if such a pickup setup would give me the right tone for rockabilly... The best thing about a Tele for rockabilly is the Tele bridge. Don't buy into the "weak single coils" argument - it's grade A bull{censored}. Page played stock Teles in the early Zeppelin days. The solo on Stairway is all Tele, and for most of the first couple of albums nobody, not even Page himself, can tell whether he's playing a Tele on those track or a Les Paul. Joe Strummer got plenty balls out of a Tele. A stock Strat bridge pup is, ime, slightly less ballsy than a Tele one (to do with the mounting, no doubt), BUT still plenty enough heavy stuff was played on a stock Strat - Hendrix, Blackmore - hell, Malmsteen plays 'em. What you'll likely find trickier is getting hold of one amp that can cover both well, unless you're open to modelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DavidMgT Posted January 25, 2012 Members Share Posted January 25, 2012 Simple...a Gibson Les Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cephus Posted January 25, 2012 Members Share Posted January 25, 2012 In my opinion, the les paul is probably the best answer. I think any HH guitar would be best. A strat would be the worst. Just because buddy holly was seen playing one doesn't mean it is the go to rockabilly guitar. Most rockabilly guys back then played gibsons anyway. I tried to play rockabilly on a strat for years and it kind of worked. But I find that the tone I wanted is the middle position on a HH gibson style switch. A tele can do that too, but I think the les paul would just be a whole lot easier to switch back and forth between things that rock hard and clean rockabilly stuff. I think the essence of that rockabilly tone is the middle position (both pickups). It works even better if you have a volume for each so you can adjust the balance between them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members johnnyl80 Posted January 25, 2012 Author Members Share Posted January 25, 2012 I've always been a big Les Paul fan, it's one of my favourite guitars, so it's definitely an option - but IMO it should be either goldtop and/or loaded with P90s, Bigsby, etc. to look right... A "normal" Studio, Standard or Custom (not that I could afford the last two! ) would kind of be out of place... But maybe, as I said, I'm just too obsessed with this kind of things! What you'll likely find trickier is getting hold of one amp that can cover both well, unless you're open to modelling. That's not a problem actually, I just finished a DIY 2x12" combo which is basically a 5F6 Bassman on one channel and a hot rodded Marshall type circuit (similar to the Laney GH, Ampeg VL and the likes...) on the other... ... Thank you for the detailed answer by the way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BigTimeFun Posted January 25, 2012 Members Share Posted January 25, 2012 The "look" is definitely a valid concern. Nowadays it seems like for any "billy", a Gretsch is the only acceptable answer. Maybe a silverjet? That can do both and look the part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members noisebloom Posted January 25, 2012 Members Share Posted January 25, 2012 I thought 'Tele' was the answer to everything?? But yeah, i would go with a Black out H/H Tele This one in black: http://www.fender.com/en-GB/products/search.php?partno=0142002300 or without trem: http://www.fender.com/en-GB/products/search.php?partno=0137702306 Blacktop - this is prob the best bet: http://www.fender.com/en-GB/products/blacktop/models.php?prodNo=014820 Cheaper option: http://www.fender.com/en-GB/products/search.php/?partno=0327502506 I've got this in black transparent, a lil different, with p90s but it kicks fooking tits! http://www.fender.com/en-GB/products/modernplayer/models.php?prodNo=0241202 I like these answers. I think a Les Paul swings a little bit too far into the classic metal territory. I think an HH Tele is very close to right in between, right where it should be. It's bright enough for rockabilly, yet it can get heavy enough for classic metal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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