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  • Epi Dot Deluxe upgrades

    I got a killer deal on a nice Epi Dot Deluxe a couple of weeks ago (my 1st really nice semi; flame top, vintage sunburst), and I was initially quite impressed with the sound and feel. I still really like the feel, but after adding a Tusq nut and based upon a lot of further playing, listening, adjusting and comparison with the Ibanez SZ520 in my sig, I need the Dot to have better toanz.



      - Seem at least as good as Mean 90s, and probably better. Priced right.

      Some other option I haven't considered .....?

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      I don't want to get raked over the coals on price, considering that the electronics upgrades (new pots, caps, jack and switch) plus installation of them and the new pickups will cost me close to $150. I'd be pretty happy if I could spend $150 or less on the pickups; the whole guitar only cost me $244 shipped and spending much more than the purchase price on upgrades seems kinda wrong somehow ....

      Thoughts ....?
    Vintage Sunburst Epi Dot Dlx: Seth Lover set | Red MIM Strat: Tonerider City Limits set; Deaf Eddie Fat-O-Caster switch | 3TS Classic Vibe 60s Strat: Deaf Eddie Chromacaster switch | Ibanez SZ520QM: Dimarzio Bluesbucker & Air Zone | Fender Sonoran Bucket acoustic-electric | Fender Super Champ XD: Eminence Ragin' Cajun; JJ Tubes | Fender G-Dec III 30: Eminence Ragin' Cajun

  • #2
    Go for the basics.

    First... the neck. A precut nut is worthless. Have a pro cut one for you and your playing style. This is perhaps the most important upgrade when it comes to a guitar's playability and feel.

    Next... have the frets leveled and crowned. Yeah, I know you just got it but it doesn't matter. Make that neck perfect all the way up and down.

    Next... buy a set of BG Pickups Pure 90s. Every frickin tone you could ever dream about in those puppies. All the tone of traditional humbuckers + much more. Not noisy at all. You'll learn what tone knobs on a guitar are for. If you change the pups, go ahead and upgrade switch, jack, caps and pots. Cowboy up and buy the best. You'll only be doing this once.

    If your budget is incredibly tight, go ahead with GFS Mean 90s but keep in mind that for a few more coins, you can buy the best... Pure 90s

    If... you want to be picky, install a nice set of 18:1 tuners.

    Last... go find some Gibby 335 players and put them to crying shame.

    Edit;
    Gorgeous guitar! Congratulations!!!

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    • #3
      Go for the basics.

      First... the neck. A precut nut is worthless. Have a pro cut one for you and your playing style. This is perhaps the most important upgrade when it comes to a guitar's playability and feel.


      I had a pro setup done when the nut was installed, and it increased the playability 100% (the action had been way too high). The Tusq nut was adjusted by the guy and I'm quite happy with the action.

      Frets? The neck and frets feel wonderful already; the ends are perfect and I have zero fret complaints. Don't see how the neck could be better unless a little bit of fret buzz could be eliminated.

      Next... buy a set of BG Pickups Pure 90s. Every frickin tone you could ever dream about in those puppies. All the tone of traditional humbuckers + much more. Not noisy at all. You'll learn what tone knobs on a guitar are for. If you change the pups, go ahead and upgrade switch, jack, caps and pots. Cowboy up and buy the best. You'll only be doing this once.

      If your budget is incredibly tight, go ahead with GFS Mean 90s but keep in mind that for a few more coins, you can buy the best... Pure 90s


      Strictly going by the look, the Pure 90s are out. I think the look of the guitar with the gold hardware is beautiful, and a pair of black-plastic-covered-with-black-screws pickups would mess that up. That's why I gave three other HB/P90 options that were available with gold covers. If I go the HB P90 route, the beautiful and sweet-sounding Rose Black Diamonds are probably the front runners, with the Kent Armstrongs and Alchemist 90s hot on their heels.

      As far as electronics goes, I'm going the standard route (Switchcraft jack & switch, CTS mini pots, Vitamin T caps).

      Thanx!
      Vintage Sunburst Epi Dot Dlx: Seth Lover set | Red MIM Strat: Tonerider City Limits set; Deaf Eddie Fat-O-Caster switch | 3TS Classic Vibe 60s Strat: Deaf Eddie Chromacaster switch | Ibanez SZ520QM: Dimarzio Bluesbucker & Air Zone | Fender Sonoran Bucket acoustic-electric | Fender Super Champ XD: Eminence Ragin' Cajun; JJ Tubes | Fender G-Dec III 30: Eminence Ragin' Cajun

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      • #4
        That's cool. I choose the art in my home based on smell.
        Hey, Cancer! **************** You!

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        • #5
          A quick check of the site shows three colors of pure 90, black, cream, or white, all with silver screws. Cream should match your binding and you can get gold mounting rings. The pair is on sale for$150.
          Hey, Cancer! **************** You!

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          • #6
            That's cool. I choose the art in my home based on smell.


            Ok, Austin, settle down.
            Vintage Sunburst Epi Dot Dlx: Seth Lover set | Red MIM Strat: Tonerider City Limits set; Deaf Eddie Fat-O-Caster switch | 3TS Classic Vibe 60s Strat: Deaf Eddie Chromacaster switch | Ibanez SZ520QM: Dimarzio Bluesbucker & Air Zone | Fender Sonoran Bucket acoustic-electric | Fender Super Champ XD: Eminence Ragin' Cajun; JJ Tubes | Fender G-Dec III 30: Eminence Ragin' Cajun

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            • #7
              There's very little that bonenut and I agree on. BG pickups is the one thing we got.
              Hey, Cancer! **************** You!

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              • #8
                A quick check of the site shows three colors of pure 90, black, cream, or white, all with silver screws. Cream should match your binding and you can get gold mounting rings. The pair is on sale for$150.


                Cream rings? Not so much. The new Rose Black Diamonds have the advantage of gold on black, and sound wonderful. Plus, they only have a 1 week wait rather than 6-8 weeks for BG pups.
                Vintage Sunburst Epi Dot Dlx: Seth Lover set | Red MIM Strat: Tonerider City Limits set; Deaf Eddie Fat-O-Caster switch | 3TS Classic Vibe 60s Strat: Deaf Eddie Chromacaster switch | Ibanez SZ520QM: Dimarzio Bluesbucker & Air Zone | Fender Sonoran Bucket acoustic-electric | Fender Super Champ XD: Eminence Ragin' Cajun; JJ Tubes | Fender G-Dec III 30: Eminence Ragin' Cajun

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                • #9
                  Gold rings. Cream pickups. Now you're just trying to be difficult.


                  And where the hell does this black screws business you keep talking about fit in?
                  Hey, Cancer! **************** You!

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                  • #10
                    Gold rings. Cream pickups. Now you're just trying to be difficult.

                    And where the hell does this black screws business you keep talking about fit in?


                    Black rings / Gold pickups / Gold or black screws = nice
                    Gold rings / Gold pickups / Gold or black screws = nice
                    Gold rings / Black pickups / Gold or black screws = nice

                    Any other combination of black and gold? Not so much.
                    Vintage Sunburst Epi Dot Dlx: Seth Lover set | Red MIM Strat: Tonerider City Limits set; Deaf Eddie Fat-O-Caster switch | 3TS Classic Vibe 60s Strat: Deaf Eddie Chromacaster switch | Ibanez SZ520QM: Dimarzio Bluesbucker & Air Zone | Fender Sonoran Bucket acoustic-electric | Fender Super Champ XD: Eminence Ragin' Cajun; JJ Tubes | Fender G-Dec III 30: Eminence Ragin' Cajun

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                    • #11
                      I think you should paint your stupid guitar black and run it without ****************ing pickups.
                      Hey, Cancer! **************** You!

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                      • #12
                        I think you should paint your stupid guitar black and run it without ****************ing pickups.


                        Sigh. Thanks so much for your input. [rolleyes]
                        Vintage Sunburst Epi Dot Dlx: Seth Lover set | Red MIM Strat: Tonerider City Limits set; Deaf Eddie Fat-O-Caster switch | 3TS Classic Vibe 60s Strat: Deaf Eddie Chromacaster switch | Ibanez SZ520QM: Dimarzio Bluesbucker & Air Zone | Fender Sonoran Bucket acoustic-electric | Fender Super Champ XD: Eminence Ragin' Cajun; JJ Tubes | Fender G-Dec III 30: Eminence Ragin' Cajun

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                        • #13
                          Yeah, thanks so much for responding to things I didn't say.
                          Hey, Cancer! **************** You!

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                          • #14
                            Just change the pickups. The electronics are fine. My natural Dot Standard has full size Alpha pots and a good switch (and as far as I am concerned a tone cap is a tone cap). I was able to switch out the pickups by just pulling the volume pots (I loosened the nuts on the tone pots but left them in place). The whole operation took 1/2 hour. I put a Duncan JB/ Jazz in mine. Tis beefy!

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                            • #15
                              Just change the pickups. The electronics are fine. My natural Dot Standard has full size Alpha pots and a good switch (and as far as I am concerned a tone cap is a tone cap). I was able to switch out the pickups by just pulling the volume pots (I loosened the nuts on the tone pots but left them in place). The whole operation took 1/2 hour. I put a Duncan JB/ Jazz in mine. Tis beefy!


                              Thanks. The JB/Jazz combo seems significantly hotter than the vintage sound I'm looking for. You have any other suggestions from my list? Could you perhaps link to an FAQ/instruction on the method you used?
                              Vintage Sunburst Epi Dot Dlx: Seth Lover set | Red MIM Strat: Tonerider City Limits set; Deaf Eddie Fat-O-Caster switch | 3TS Classic Vibe 60s Strat: Deaf Eddie Chromacaster switch | Ibanez SZ520QM: Dimarzio Bluesbucker & Air Zone | Fender Sonoran Bucket acoustic-electric | Fender Super Champ XD: Eminence Ragin' Cajun; JJ Tubes | Fender G-Dec III 30: Eminence Ragin' Cajun

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