Members fortress55 Posted November 12, 2012 Members Share Posted November 12, 2012 hi!! I have a Les paul (2010) that i'm consistently need to retune the G string. That les paul got some Lock tuner (dont know how to call them) but the G string keep detuning. I do alot of neck bending (like randy rhoads) maybe its the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elessar [Sly] Posted November 12, 2012 Members Share Posted November 12, 2012 Get the guitar set up properly, use thicker guage strings, make sure the string is definitely locked in the tuner and isn't loose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fortress55 Posted November 12, 2012 Author Members Share Posted November 12, 2012 i'M using 10 gauge. No one in my town can tune up my guitar.. I willing to listen to you trick!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tupelo Son Posted November 12, 2012 Members Share Posted November 12, 2012 Sounds like your g-string is probably sticking in the nut. Try a little nut sauce on the nut's g-string slot. If you don't have nut sauce, a no. 2 pencil works fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fortress55 Posted November 12, 2012 Author Members Share Posted November 12, 2012 pencil ??? good trick i'll try that i always hear a little "tic" sound when i'm trying to fine tune the Gstring.. Its like the string was stuck and suddenly, while turning the peg, the string unlock (sorry for my englisH) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mesa/Kramer Posted November 12, 2012 Members Share Posted November 12, 2012 Get a new Bone nut installedUse some Nut Sauce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Carbohydrates Posted November 12, 2012 Members Share Posted November 12, 2012 Originally Posted by fortress55 pencil ??? good trick i'll try thati always hear a little "tic" sound when i'm trying to fine tune the Gstring.. Its like the string was stuck and suddenly, while turning the peg, the string unlock(sorry for my englisH) Yeah this is absolutely 100% the nut. In fact, if you have a Gibson with a tuning stability issue, 99% of the time it's the nut. You can lubricate it, but you should also widen the slot just a little tiny bit with some folded sandpaper or a finishing file. Or just have the nut replaced entirely, which is what I usually end up doing to my Gibsons. I like a graphtech nut, personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fortress55 Posted November 12, 2012 Author Members Share Posted November 12, 2012 thx alot guys for these helpful hints.. I saw some graphite lubricant at my canadian tire and will check the graphtech nut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bro Blue Posted November 12, 2012 Members Share Posted November 12, 2012 It's the nut, as others have said. Chapstick works well, and is cheaper than Nut Sauce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fortress55 Posted November 12, 2012 Author Members Share Posted November 12, 2012 but why is it always the G string the problem?? on all my guitars, i have a problem with the G string,, Maybe the Nut is the problem but why its not problematic for the others strings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stormin1155 Posted November 12, 2012 Members Share Posted November 12, 2012 Originally Posted by fortress55 but why is it always the G string the problem?? on all my guitars, i have a problem with the G string,, Maybe the Nut is the problem but why its not problematic for the others strings? On Gibsons the G string takes a sharper bend at the nut than the other strings, which is why it is the one that most often causes problems. Don't know why the D string doesn't cause the same problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SGRocker30 Posted November 12, 2012 Members Share Posted November 12, 2012 Head to Montreal, Mon Frere! The strippers there are experts on g strings AND nut lube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fortress55 Posted November 12, 2012 Author Members Share Posted November 12, 2012 Originally Posted by SGRocker30 Head to Montreal, Mon Frere! The strippers there are experts on g strings AND nut lube. i'm 8 hours away from montreal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeadNight Warrior Posted November 13, 2012 Members Share Posted November 13, 2012 Originally Posted by fortress55 pencil ??? good trick i'll try thati always hear a little "tic" sound when i'm trying to fine tune the Gstring.. Its like the string was stuck and suddenly, while turning the peg, the string unlock(sorry for my englisH) Yeah, that sounds like it's catching something at the nut. Have a good look at it, see if it needs cleaning up or widening a little. It doesn't take much wrong with a nut to give horrible results, but it'll probably also be an easy fix. Even if the nut's cut perfectly, doesn't hurt to put some lubrication in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bubkus_jones Posted November 13, 2012 Members Share Posted November 13, 2012 Originally Posted by fortress55 i'm 8 hours away from montreal Still worth the trip, I'd assume. I'd like to know why Gibson hasn't offered a line of Les Pauls (or any 3&3 headstock guitar) with a redesigned headstock so that the tuners are in-line with the string path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members McCain Posted November 13, 2012 Members Share Posted November 13, 2012 Tune to pitch and give a little tug on the string in the pick-up area, most likely the string will go a little flat, tune back to pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members honeyiscool Posted November 13, 2012 Members Share Posted November 13, 2012 Good luck! G strings always go out of tune for me. I think you have to get string lubricant, that's for sure. I prefer the gel types to graphite. Just get some under the strings on the saddles and nut. You don't need much, just a little will do. You want it so that as you're bringing the string up to tune, there is no pinging at all. Now pull on the string and tune up to pitch every time until pulling on the string doesn't change the pitch at all. Then you should be stable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Inspector 71 Posted November 13, 2012 Members Share Posted November 13, 2012 Originally Posted by fortress55 but why is it always the G string the problem?? on all my guitars, i have a problem with the G string,, Maybe the Nut is the problem but why its not problematic for the others strings? has been a problem for many a poor boyEdit*---------I actually thought about this. For 3x3 G is the highest up and it is bare wire (usually) causing stability issues. Also the nut it most likely filed to give the strings a straight shot over the nut. The G-string is probably the most bent string while playing. I typically only bend the G, B, & E. G by far the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Les Paul Lover Posted November 13, 2012 Members Share Posted November 13, 2012 Nevermind nut lubricants, they are only helping with the problem. The solution to the problem is filing the offeding nut slot. That's the only thing that will make your problem disappear. Si, si, j'insiste. D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Yer Blues Posted November 13, 2012 Members Share Posted November 13, 2012 I was going to type something up, but this says it better.... Wound G StringAs we all know, the third, or "G", string in most "normal" sets of strings for electric guitar is a "plain", or unwound string. This unwound third string normally performs quite badly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GCDEF Posted November 13, 2012 Members Share Posted November 13, 2012 Nevermind nut lubricants, they are only helping with the problem.The solution to the problem is filing the offeding nut slot. That's the only thing that will make your problem disappear. Si, si, j'insiste. D I agree. Take it to a competent tech and get it slotted properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GCDEF Posted November 13, 2012 Members Share Posted November 13, 2012 I was going to type something up, but this says it better....Source: http://images.onstagemag.com/files/46/0202Setuptxt.html This is a joke, right. Nobody that plays 10 gauge strings, rock and almost nobody that plays blues uses a wound 3rd, and there's certainly no reason to just because you have a badly cut nut. It's an easy fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members craigny Posted November 13, 2012 Members Share Posted November 13, 2012 Yeah the nut is the culprit...the old G string...a little nut sauce or graphite...i use Dr. Ducks Ax Wax...a little dab from a Q-tip in the slot when changing strings and no more binding...your using 10's so a a slot adjustment may not be necassary but that is always another option if lubing it up dosent remedy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jim85IROC Posted November 13, 2012 Members Share Posted November 13, 2012 On Gibsons the G string takes a sharper bend at the nut than the other strings, which is why it is the one that most often causes problems. Don't know why the D string doesn't cause the same problems. It does on my Epi LP. The D and G both suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fortress55 Posted November 13, 2012 Author Members Share Posted November 13, 2012 THx guys again for your help Yesterday, i did use some sandpaper to widen and soften the G nut spot (hehe) and put some pencil graphite in it. Your tricks did work very well I will purchase a graphite nut later... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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