Members Jkater Posted November 13, 2012 Members Share Posted November 13, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4Gc0B3vNVo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bruto Posted November 13, 2012 Members Share Posted November 13, 2012 American media in the 60s treated rock musicians with contempt - although Mike Douglass and Ed Sullivan were notable exceptions. Dick Cavett was always pretentious - not just to Jimi Hendrix, but to everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lonnie99 Posted November 13, 2012 Members Share Posted November 13, 2012 Didn't seem like a dick to me. OTOH Hendrix seemed like he was truly wrapped up in that 60s hippy trippy mumbo jumbo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members caveman Posted November 13, 2012 Members Share Posted November 13, 2012 That was Cavett's shtick. The band backed Jimi nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soundcreation Posted November 13, 2012 Members Share Posted November 13, 2012 meh....I don't know....I don't think it was that bad. Cavett's "comedy" just clashed with Jimi's flakiness. Jimi was probably so high he didn't know what he was being asked. song was sweet though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted November 13, 2012 Moderators Share Posted November 13, 2012 It reminds me very much of our Jonathan Ross, to be honest I think Cavett comes over pretty well, and ahead of it's time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cratz2 Posted November 13, 2012 Members Share Posted November 13, 2012 Yeah, he was pretty dry and could definitely come off as being a pretentious prick but more in the 'elitist university professor' way rather than just a dismissive sort of way. My guess is if you could have asked Jimi what he thought of Cavett three days after that show, he'd probably have responded, 'Seems nice enough on the tube but I've never met him so I don't really know.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BryanMichael Posted November 13, 2012 Members Share Posted November 13, 2012 Seriously? I think Dick was pretty cool. He is much less "snarky" than people like Letterman. In fact Dick kind of reminds me of being a cross between Bob Newhart and David Letterman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cobalt Blue Posted November 13, 2012 Members Share Posted November 13, 2012 Dick Cavett was very well-liked by musicians who considered Cavett cool--which is why so many musicians appeared on his show, even though they seemed to, otherwise, eschew appearing on TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pekelnik Posted November 13, 2012 Members Share Posted November 13, 2012 I thought both were pretty cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GREC Posted November 13, 2012 Members Share Posted November 13, 2012 I remember the Dick Cavett show from being a kid. Miss that type of 'dry' wit.Looks like Jimi's playin' thru an Ampeg flip top Portaflex bass amp.Dick's orchestra playing Purple Haze at Jimi's into at 7:05 is hysterical! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members xStonr Posted November 13, 2012 Members Share Posted November 13, 2012 I did not sense any disrespect at all. That was Cavett's sense of humor. At that time, he was the "hip" talk show host. If I remember correctly, Jimi only appeared on The Dick Cavett Show. I think Jimi appeared again after Woodstock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Foster Zygote Posted November 13, 2012 Members Share Posted November 13, 2012 Originally Posted by Cobalt Blue Dick Cavett was very well-liked by musicians who considered Cavett cool--which is why so many musicians appeared on his show, even though they seemed to, otherwise, eschew appearing on TV. Another cool appearance is a very young Frank Zappa on the Steve Allen show. While Allen definitely had fun with the idea of Zappa playing a solo on the bicycle, it was clearly with the understanding that Zappa was having fun with it himself, and there was never an air of condescension toward his guest. In fact, right after Zappa's performance, Allen mentioned that it reminded him of the work of Alwin Nikolais, describing him as a very gifted composer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members noisebloom Posted November 13, 2012 Members Share Posted November 13, 2012 Jimi's appearance on Dick Cavett is one of my earliest memories.Dick Cavett comes across as high falutin', that's just who he is. He has a dry wit, but he comes across as pretentious at times.Bob Costas is kind of like a milder version of Dick Cavett, today.But Cavett could get out the rhetorical dukes, too. He had a notable on-air battle with Norman Mailer once, where he brought Mailer down a couple of pegs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members catscurlyear Posted November 13, 2012 Members Share Posted November 13, 2012 Originally Posted by GREC Dick's orchestra playing Purple Haze at Jimi's into at 7:05 is hysterical! i think that would be foxy lady, band sounded great, drummer was brill and stuck right with jimi when they played , i think jimi may have pissed dick off by saying the art of words mean nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members El Glom-o Posted November 13, 2012 Members Share Posted November 13, 2012 Originally Posted by Foster Zygote While Allen definitely had fun with the idea of Zappa playing a solo on the bicycle, it was clearly with the understanding that Zappa was having fun with it himself, and there was never an air of condescension toward his guest. Much unlike when he decided to be a total asshole and make Elvis wear a tux while singing "Hound Dog" to an actual basset hound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members benricci Posted November 13, 2012 Members Share Posted November 13, 2012 It was almost 45 years ago. Who really cares anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nicholai Posted November 13, 2012 Members Share Posted November 13, 2012 Jimi's signature on my wall does! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GAS Man Posted November 13, 2012 Members Share Posted November 13, 2012 Originally Posted by bruto American media in the 60s treated rock musicians with contempt - although Mike Douglass and Ed Sullivan were notable exceptions. Dick Cavett was always pretentious - not just to Jimi Hendrix, but to everyone. Agreed. I'm at work now so I won't watch the vid, but Cavett often did come across smug or droll at best. With his demeanor, it always made me wonder, "Who is this smug twit?" I didn't much like him, but my sister did. But for the most part, his guests seemed to "get him" and if you can believe it, he was considered somewhat hip for his time. He was at least opening the door for the "counter culture" to have a mouth piece. Ed Sullivan may have treated the acts with more respect, but to him, it really didn't matter if it was musicians, juggling plates or trained monkeys. His only concern was booking whatever people were willing to get into a long line to see. Cavett at least bucked the mainstream conservative media of the day and provided a forum for these people (Janis included) to come on and just be people. I think that's why his guests seemed to appreciate him even if he did come across a bit judgmental. I think he was trying to strike some balance for what the market audience expected of him during those rather conservative times. It wasn't that long before when Steve Allen had Elvis on his show but had him sing to a Basset Hound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bud M Posted November 14, 2012 Members Share Posted November 14, 2012 Seemed fine to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AaronF Posted November 14, 2012 Members Share Posted November 14, 2012 He seems like a nice enough guy. I'd much prefer to be interviewed by Dick Cavett than David Letterman. Letterman can be a passive-aggressive dick sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members photon9 Posted November 14, 2012 Members Share Posted November 14, 2012 I enjoyed that. I don't think Cavett was being a dick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Emory Posted November 14, 2012 Members Share Posted November 14, 2012 i watched Cavett regularly, and agree he was somewhat dry and Uni prof, but his humor was at least 10 IQ points above the others. I saw no disrespect. Steve Allen was great too. Remember seeing Dylan for first time on his show, and Jack Kerouac. Plus Steve was a musician, a plus when musical types show up, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members billybilly Posted November 14, 2012 Members Share Posted November 14, 2012 Given the context, I thought they both were cool and enjoyed that. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Funkwire Posted November 14, 2012 Members Share Posted November 14, 2012 Originally Posted by noisebloom But Cavett could get out the rhetorical dukes, too. He had a notable on-air battle with Norman Mailer once, where he brought Mailer down a couple of pegs. That clip is AWESOME. Mailer was {censored}faced and tried to spar verbally with Gore Vidal (and failed miserably). When he tried to get some of his own back and told Cavett to ask the questions printed on the index cards, Cavett said, "Why don't you fold them five ways and stick them where the sun don't shine?" There is nothing in the mainstream broadcast offerings today like Cavett's show. It was pretty remarkable back then, truth be told. And I don't think Cavett was putting Jimi down. I just don't think they meshed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.