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  • #16






    Quote Originally Posted by Malfunction
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    Not me but 4 shows the same night in 2 different cities??? wow thats just impressive

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    There are 2 touring companies of the same show so they can cover the entire country in the space of 2 months.

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    • #17
      Never seen them but that Christmas song of theirs that plays non-stop during this time of year is ANNOYING AS ****************!!!!



      Would still watch live.

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      • #18
        They're going to be here on the 26th. For a Christmas show.
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        • #19






          Quote Originally Posted by Axeslinger
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          Trans Siberian Orchestra





          One of the best shows you'll see anywhere!



          http://youtu.be/VIeq3Nscd70




          Based on what little I've seen before I expected Christmas-themed hard-rock bombast. But that looked like a Broadway show with guitars, down to the Les Mis singing style. Which is great if that floats your boat. But have they changed a lot since a few years ago?
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          • #20






            Quote Originally Posted by Thurston
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            Never seen them but that Christmas song of theirs that plays non-stop during this time of year is ANNOYING AS ****************!!!!



            Would still watch live.




            Thing that gets my goat is that Paul made that a SAVATAGE song. Then when it hit big, he made it a TSO song. Now Savatage gets zero credit, and TSO gets tons of support from that one tune (as no other has had the success). The first year that hit radio, it was the original Savatage recording, as far as I recall. I just feel like somehow Jon Oliva took a big kick in the nuts on that one.






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            • #21
              I got to go last year in Pittsburgh. Not my idea, my girl's family had tickets for some reason, and one of the group couldn't go.

              I wouldn't choose it over a regular rock show, but it is one heck of a spectacle. It was a lot better than I thought it would be.
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              • #22
                I think the best one I've seen was in 2010 in Tampa.. But then again, Robin Zander of Cheap Trick popped up on stage and they did 3 or 4 Cheap Trick tunes VERY WELL!!
                I remember my wife and I walking out and saying almost simultaneously " I don't recall seeing a better show anywhere!" And between the two of, we have seen everyone from AC/DC to Metallica to Zeplin to Bonamassa to Van Halen to Rush to, well, you get the picture..

                I'm looking forward to the 15th

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                • #23


                  Well, you need to remember that the last several Savatage records were written by Paul and Jon. The TSO records? Written by Paul and Jon. How is Jon getting screwed here? He's not, he makes plenty of cash from TSO. And, this is technically a cover tune anyway.

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                  • #24
                    I've seen Jon Oliva at every TSO show I've been to. And Paul O'Neill has performed at least one song with the band at every TSO show I've seen..

                    Neither one ever seemed to be too upset by the proceedings

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                    • #25
                      Well, you need to remember that the last several Savatage records were written by Paul and Jon. The TSO records? Written by Paul and Jon. How is Jon getting screwed here? He's not, he makes plenty of cash from TSO. And, this is technically a cover tune anyway.



                      I getcha, but it's like writing a song with your band, then the band has a hit with the song. Now you go join another band, and take that song with you - releasing a new version with the new band that is so close to the original that people don't know it's two different bands/songs. Seems sketchy. However I understand that the song was never actually MEANT to be a Savatage tune. I just feel like once it WAS, it should have stayed that way. Look in this very thread, at the people that expected TSO to be much heavier and more rock oriented after hearing just that tune on the radio.

                      I didn't realize that Oliva was getting bank from TSO, as he doesn't tour with them and I didn't know their arrangement. But I went from elation that first winter when all the pop stations were playing SAVATAGE to utter disappointment the following year when it was re-recorded and released as a TSO tune.

                      And while it's well known that Paul wrote the musical that became "streets" and the title and a few tracks on "Gutter Ballet", It was Jon's voice and Criss's guitars that made those albums amazing. The writing itself, sadly, turned off quite a few fans. I loved those two albums, but the stuff afterwards was terrible. Even with better vocals, fancier writing, and better musicians, the newer stuff was terrible. I just see TSO as a further extension of this. And when I heard Christmas Eve Sarajevo (a unique orchestral ARRANGEMENT, not a "cover" per se) on the radio I thought it was a sign of a big comeback for the band. Instead, it seemed to have been the final nail in the coffin.
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                      • #26
                        I've seen Jon Oliva at every TSO show I've been to. And Paul O'Neill has performed at least one song with the band at every TSO show I've seen..

                        Neither one ever seemed to be too upset by the proceedings


                        Remember, I'm speaking as a fan. Jon was also happy to give up the frontman slot in his own band and drink himself sick every night while Zach show-tuned up all his songs for him. I didn't realize he was such a big part of TSO. But it still doesn't change how I felt about that switcheroo with Christmas Eve Serajevo.
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                        • #27
                          What I have read from Jon is that he loves Savatage but got tired of losing money. All of a sudden, he is doing TSO with Paul and finally making money. Which would you pick?
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                          • #28
                            What I have read from Jon is that he loves Savatage but got tired of losing money. All of a sudden, he is doing TSO with Paul and finally making money. Which would you pick?


                            Jon Oliva's Pain. I bought all 4 albums and love them dearly. The two TSO I picked up sucked balls, musically. Probably why the Savatized song is their most popular to date.
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                            • #29
                              I went 2 years ago. It was cool, but once was enough. The best part was when Joe Walsh came on stage and played an Encore with them for a few songs.
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                              • #30
                                We're looking forward to this years show; Dec 23rd Boston. Last years show was awesome. Soaring guitars, great vocals, lasers, snow, what more could you want?
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