Members Little Ricky Posted December 14, 2012 Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 and then they wonder why I'm returning a brand new guitar with a broken headstock. They shipped a new LP Jr. (which comes in a gig bag) in the small Gibson box. What were they thinking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Help!I'maRock! Posted December 14, 2012 Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 first mistake: buying from MF second mistake: assuming anybody there was thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Meowy Posted December 14, 2012 Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 Sorry, but that is the shipper's fault, not MF. I am going out on a limb that the box says "Gibson" on it with some kind of a guitar looking graphic, as well as saying "FRAGILE" somewhere. It takes quite a bit of force to break a headstock inside a box and a gig bag. Shipping personnel should be doing their job to not throw it around like a piece of Samsonite luggage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members StevenJM Posted December 14, 2012 Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 Does the box have two layers of cardboard? A lot of "guitar boxes" that I've used are two-layered boxes already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaveGrima Posted December 14, 2012 Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 I recently bought a LP and the gigbag it comes in is pretty thickly padded, plus theres an extra cardboard thing inside the Gibson box to stabilize the neck. Like Meowy said you'd really have to be trying to break the headstock inside all of that. Was the box damaged as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Smithshred Posted December 14, 2012 Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 I just bought a tele from MF and it was packed as good or better than any other guitar I've ever purchased online. YMMV I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaleH Posted December 14, 2012 Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 Wouldn't that be the way Gibson ships them. MF and many others ship from the same warehouses. I don't think anyone at MF see the boxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lonnie99 Posted December 14, 2012 Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 Have any of you ever toured a FEDEX/UPS plant? I swear to God it's unbelievable, like something out of a Dr Seuss book. Imagine the inside of a beehive, or the mother ship from Independence Day, and you'll begin to understand. I'm amazed ANYTHING gets through those places unscathed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Into Nation Posted December 14, 2012 Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 Originally Posted by DaleH Wouldn't that be the way Gibson ships them. MF and many others ship from the same warehouses. I don't think anyone at MF see the boxes. I wouldn't be surprised given the volume, that MF receives wrapped pallets of guitars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sammyreynolds01 Posted December 14, 2012 Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 Yep that's the shippers fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JVH Posted December 14, 2012 Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 They double boxed both my guitars... Maybe they are running out of boxes?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CronoNYC Posted December 14, 2012 Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 I recently purchased a Gibson Midtown, and MF packed the Gibson box inside a large cardboard box, with some padding inside. However, Music123 did send me a Gibson LP Jr Special in the original Gibson box only. In neither case were the goods damaged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bluesnapper Posted December 14, 2012 Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 My Studio came from Germany to the UK in a gig bag and cardboard box. I'll trust DHL every time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Little Ricky Posted December 14, 2012 Author Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 I've received guitars both packed well (double boxed) or sent in the single manufactures box from MF in the past. With Fenders style headstocks it's rarely an issue, Gibson head stocks can break if you look at them the wrong way The box itself had no damage so the guitar landed on it's head at least once. Double boxing would have protected it even if that was the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Little Ricky Posted December 14, 2012 Author Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 Originally Posted by CronoNYC I recently purchased a Gibson Midtown, and MF packed the Gibson box inside a large cardboard box, with some padding inside. However, Music123 did send me a Gibson LP Jr Special in the original Gibson box only. In neither case were the goods damaged. Hoping the Tribute I have coming from 123 doesn't suffer the same fate as this one then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Little Ricky Posted December 14, 2012 Author Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 Originally Posted by Into Nation I wouldn't be surprised given the volume, that MF receives wrapped pallets of guitars. That is what I'd always thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members johnnytuinals Posted December 14, 2012 Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 My Gibson Flying V came with a Hardshell case inside a very large Gibson box. No damage at all cause I think maybe it was inside the hardshell case. As for the cheaper Gibsons,,,makes yeaaa wonder.........JT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ajympt Posted December 14, 2012 Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 Last one I got from Sam Ash was just in the factory box - not one bit of packing - turned out ok- of course this was after they sent me the one that had obviously been shipped to someone else and returned. Reminded me why I buy local. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kuz929 Posted December 14, 2012 Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 Yea man, nothing to do with MF. {censored} happens in shipping it's part of buying online. You can't fault a company for shipping damage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members i3oosted Posted December 14, 2012 Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members axegrinder Posted December 14, 2012 Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 It is the shipper's fault NOT the carrier's fault. The carriers are pretty clear about what constitutes safe packing. A business with a shipping account knows what can happen, trust me. With the volume that MF ships they probably know better than anyone what they can get away with, and I think they take a lot of calculated risks. My LP tribute came from M123 doubled boxed (gig bag inside factory carton inside a bigger carton stuffed with some brown paper). A typical mahogany neck without a volute wouldn't always survive in that packaging. Mine is a maple neck with a volute so the risk was lower.I've seen plenty of stupidity from MF. I think they just don't care as much about the merchandise as the people buying it. I'm still miffed that they packed a cast iron mic stand loose inside a factory Squier carton with my guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Canadian Jeff Posted December 14, 2012 Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 lol @ all the shipping experts on here. Tell me, guys: LP knockoff with a balsa neck shipped via UPS but quad boxed with more packing peanuts than even god could imagine; gonna break or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members axegrinder Posted December 14, 2012 Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 I worked my way through college at a UPS pack n ship joint, so I feel qualified to make educated guesses about this stuff. Add to that all the physics and material engineering classes, and I appreciate the consequences of a little momentum and string tension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members axegrinder Posted December 14, 2012 Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 Jeff to answer your question it depends how secure your fantasy LP is secured in its lair. The inside of a package is often times more hazardous than the outside. You'd feel safe in the back of an armored car, but how about without seatbelts as it tumbles down a roadside embankment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Canadian Jeff Posted December 14, 2012 Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 Oh, believe me, I've seen Smart Car crash vids and thought "yeah the car is pretty much in-tact but the people on the inside must be scrambled eggs". Really not sure why people go all bananas on the internet when a guitar shows up broken though. Yesh, MF could have packaged it better and yesh, UPS/Fedex/whatever could have been more gentile; in the end though, isht happens and you move on. Just call up MF and they'll fix the situation, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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