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  • #46






    Quote Originally Posted by tlbonehead
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    Have they squashed your efforts to start a competing auction business? If so, how?




    Yes they have. I no longer have the desire to go toe to toe against an industry giant that has 70+% of the market share of an industry. It would be a futile effort. And obviously other entrepreneurs have felt the same way because ebay is still the dominant player with little to no real competition.



    Just because a few people on an internet forum are confused about the definition of the term monopoly, that does not change its meaning. Ebay still remains a monopoly.









    Quote Originally Posted by tlbonehead
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    that may be. But that is certainly not because they squash every attempt for anyone else to start a similar service.




    They don't have to squash any attempts when there are no real world threats. They only need to create a psychological barrier to entry.



    Q: Why doesn't anybody today try to start up a new company to compete against UPS and FedEx?



    A: Because these two industry giants have the market sewn up, ergo it's a loosing battle.



    Same is true with Coke and Pepsi. Two industry giants selling nothing more than sugar water.
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    <img src="images/misc/quote_icon.png" alt="Quote" /> Originally Posted by <strong> Mike Eldred, Fender Custom Shop</strong>

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    <div class="message">The discussion about nitro (and many things on forums like these) is largely based on folklore, innuendo, and assumption that it &quot;sounds better&quot;. Poppycock.</div>

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    • #47






      Quote Originally Posted by tlbonehead
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      Have they squashed your efforts to start a competing auction business? If so, how?




      Yes they have. I no longer have the desire to go toe to toe against an industry giant that has 70+% of the market share of an industry. It would be a futile effort. And obviously other entrepreneurs have felt the same way because ebay is still the dominant player with little to no real competition.



      Just because a few people on an internet forum are confused about the definition of the term monopoly, that does not change its meaning. Ebay still remains a monopoly.









      Quote Originally Posted by tlbonehead
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      that may be. But that is certainly not because they squash every attempt for anyone else to start a similar service.




      They don't have to squash any attempts when there are no real world threats. They only need to create a psychological barrier to entry.



      Q: Why doesn't anybody today try to start up a new company to compete against UPS and FedEx?



      A: Because these two industry giants have the market sewn up, ergo it's a loosing battle.



      Same is true with Coke and Pepsi. Two industry giants selling nothing more than sugar water.
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      I Surf therefore I am. <img src="http://img3.harmony-central.com/acapella/ubb/cool.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Cool" class="inlineimg" /><br />
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      <img src="images/misc/quote_icon.png" alt="Quote" /> Originally Posted by <strong> Mike Eldred, Fender Custom Shop</strong>

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      <div class="message">The discussion about nitro (and many things on forums like these) is largely based on folklore, innuendo, and assumption that it &quot;sounds better&quot;. Poppycock.</div>

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      • #48






        Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Morbius
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        Yes they have. I no longer have the desire to go toe to toe against an industry giant that has 70+% of the market share of an industry. It would be a futile effort. And obviously other entrepreneurs have felt the same way because ebay is still the dominant player with little to no real competition.



        Just because a few people on an internet forum are confused about the definition of the term monopoly, that does not change its meaning. Ebay still remains a monopoly.



        They don't have to squash any attempts when there are no real world threats. They only need to create a psychological barrier to entry.



        Q: Why doesn't anybody today try to start up a new company to compete against UPS and FedEx?



        A: Because these two industry giants have the market sewn up, ergo it's a loosing battle.




        but the only "bad" thing they've done according to your version of "monopoly" is come up with a great idea and then put forth the inspiration and perspiration to make it successful. You make it sound like that is a bad thing.
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        - Vox VT15 Valvetronix very clean - $85 + shipping<br />
        - Hughes Kettner Edition Tube 20 (the early Voxy sounding one) Sounds &amp; looks good. $250 + shipping. <b>SOLD</b><br />
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        • #49






          Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Morbius
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          Yes they have. I no longer have the desire to go toe to toe against an industry giant that has 70+% of the market share of an industry. It would be a futile effort. And obviously other entrepreneurs have felt the same way because ebay is still the dominant player with little to no real competition.



          Just because a few people on an internet forum are confused about the definition of the term monopoly, that does not change its meaning. Ebay still remains a monopoly.



          They don't have to squash any attempts when there are no real world threats. They only need to create a psychological barrier to entry.



          Q: Why doesn't anybody today try to start up a new company to compete against UPS and FedEx?



          A: Because these two industry giants have the market sewn up, ergo it's a loosing battle.




          but the only "bad" thing they've done according to your version of "monopoly" is come up with a great idea and then put forth the inspiration and perspiration to make it successful. You make it sound like that is a bad thing.
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          -For Sale: <br />
          -set of GFS Dream 90s- gold and black pearl- $40 shipped in the cont. US<br />
          -(2) Celestion G12M-70 16 ohm guitar speakers in good condition $40 ea. + shipping.<br />
          - Vox VT15 Valvetronix very clean - $85 + shipping<br />
          - Hughes Kettner Edition Tube 20 (the early Voxy sounding one) Sounds &amp; looks good. $250 + shipping. <b>SOLD</b><br />
          - Crate Palomino V8 - 10&quot; Celestion - Very clean - on Ebay (sold)</div>

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          • #50






            Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Morbius
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            Yes they have. I no longer have the desire to go toe to toe against an industry giant that has 70+% of the market share of an industry. It would be a futile effort. And obviously other entrepreneurs have felt the same way because ebay is still the dominant player with little to no real competition.



            Just because a few people on an internet forum are confused about the definition of the term monopoly, that does not change its meaning. Ebay still remains a monopoly.



            They don't have to squash any attempts when there are no real world threats. They only need to create a psychological barrier to entry.



            Q: Why doesn't anybody today try to start up a new company to compete against UPS and FedEx?



            A: Because these two industry giants have the market sewn up, ergo it's a loosing battle.



            Same is true with Coke and Pepsi. Two industry giants selling nothing more than sugar water.




            which company is older between UPS and FedEx? I believe it is UPS. So there is room for both of them to co-exist. Does that make them a co-monopoly? And what about USPS?
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            -For Sale: <br />
            -set of GFS Dream 90s- gold and black pearl- $40 shipped in the cont. US<br />
            -(2) Celestion G12M-70 16 ohm guitar speakers in good condition $40 ea. + shipping.<br />
            - Vox VT15 Valvetronix very clean - $85 + shipping<br />
            - Hughes Kettner Edition Tube 20 (the early Voxy sounding one) Sounds &amp; looks good. $250 + shipping. <b>SOLD</b><br />
            - Crate Palomino V8 - 10&quot; Celestion - Very clean - on Ebay (sold)</div>

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            • #51






              Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Morbius
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              Yes they have. I no longer have the desire to go toe to toe against an industry giant that has 70+% of the market share of an industry. It would be a futile effort. And obviously other entrepreneurs have felt the same way because ebay is still the dominant player with little to no real competition.



              Just because a few people on an internet forum are confused about the definition of the term monopoly, that does not change its meaning. Ebay still remains a monopoly.



              They don't have to squash any attempts when there are no real world threats. They only need to create a psychological barrier to entry.



              Q: Why doesn't anybody today try to start up a new company to compete against UPS and FedEx?



              A: Because these two industry giants have the market sewn up, ergo it's a loosing battle.



              Same is true with Coke and Pepsi. Two industry giants selling nothing more than sugar water.




              which company is older between UPS and FedEx? I believe it is UPS. So there is room for both of them to co-exist. Does that make them a co-monopoly? And what about USPS?
              <div class="signaturecontainer"><a href="mailto:tlbonehead@yahoo.com">tlbonehead@yaho o.com</a><br />
              <a href="http://www.myspace.com/tbone_tommy" target="_blank">www.myspace.com/tbone_tommy</a><br />
              -For Sale: <br />
              -set of GFS Dream 90s- gold and black pearl- $40 shipped in the cont. US<br />
              -(2) Celestion G12M-70 16 ohm guitar speakers in good condition $40 ea. + shipping.<br />
              - Vox VT15 Valvetronix very clean - $85 + shipping<br />
              - Hughes Kettner Edition Tube 20 (the early Voxy sounding one) Sounds &amp; looks good. $250 + shipping. <b>SOLD</b><br />
              - Crate Palomino V8 - 10&quot; Celestion - Very clean - on Ebay (sold)</div>

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              • #52






                Quote Originally Posted by tlbonehead
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                but the only "bad" thing they've done according to your version of "monopoly" is come up with a great idea and then put forth the inspiration and perspiration to make it successful. You make it sound like that is a bad thing.




                Not all business has to be bad. The only thing bad about Ebay is their power to set their own pricing structure without any real competition. I'm in favor of what is best for the consumer, ergo I would prefer the market had several other options.



                My father and I used to go 'round and 'round on this. He insisted Microsoft wasn't a monopoly and all anyone had to do was start up their own software company in direct competition. Unfortunately, it isn't that easy or other industry giants would have done so. IBM tried. Apple tried. Linux squeaks out an OS or two. But when it's impossible to buy a Dell or go to Best Buy and buy a computer that's not a MAC with a different OS and loaded software, it just isn't there. That's what comprises a monopoly. The only other option is to go to a place like Newegg.com and buy the parts necessary to build a computer and put your own OS on it. However, that represents a very insignificant market share.
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                <img src="images/misc/quote_icon.png" alt="Quote" /> Originally Posted by <strong> Mike Eldred, Fender Custom Shop</strong>

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                <div class="message">The discussion about nitro (and many things on forums like these) is largely based on folklore, innuendo, and assumption that it &quot;sounds better&quot;. Poppycock.</div>

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                • #53






                  Quote Originally Posted by tlbonehead
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                  but the only "bad" thing they've done according to your version of "monopoly" is come up with a great idea and then put forth the inspiration and perspiration to make it successful. You make it sound like that is a bad thing.




                  Not all business has to be bad. The only thing bad about Ebay is their power to set their own pricing structure without any real competition. I'm in favor of what is best for the consumer, ergo I would prefer the market had several other options.



                  My father and I used to go 'round and 'round on this. He insisted Microsoft wasn't a monopoly and all anyone had to do was start up their own software company in direct competition. Unfortunately, it isn't that easy or other industry giants would have done so. IBM tried. Apple tried. Linux squeaks out an OS or two. But when it's impossible to buy a Dell or go to Best Buy and buy a computer that's not a MAC with a different OS and loaded software, it just isn't there. That's what comprises a monopoly. The only other option is to go to a place like Newegg.com and buy the parts necessary to build a computer and put your own OS on it. However, that represents a very insignificant market share.
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                  I Surf therefore I am. <img src="http://img3.harmony-central.com/acapella/ubb/cool.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Cool" class="inlineimg" /><br />
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                  <img src="images/misc/quote_icon.png" alt="Quote" /> Originally Posted by <strong> Mike Eldred, Fender Custom Shop</strong>

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                  <div class="message">The discussion about nitro (and many things on forums like these) is largely based on folklore, innuendo, and assumption that it &quot;sounds better&quot;. Poppycock.</div>

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                  • #54






                    Quote Originally Posted by tlbonehead
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                    which company is older between UPS and FedEx? I believe it is UPS. So there is room for both of them to co-exist. Does that make them a co-monopoly? And what about USPS?




                    UPS is much older. I think they started in the 1920's or 30's. When two or more companies control the dominant portion of the market share it is called an oligopoly. When an oligopoly engages in collusion (illegal in the U.S.) it is a cartel.



                    FedEx started out as an airmail only delivery so they didn't compete directly with UPS until they had a large enough infrastructure and were able to do so.



                    The USPS is by definition a monopoly as it is illegal to compete directly against them. UPS and FedEx are not allowed to deliver mail door to door. They are a package delivery service.
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                    I Surf therefore I am. <img src="http://img3.harmony-central.com/acapella/ubb/cool.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Cool" class="inlineimg" /><br />
                    <a href="http://www.acmeguitarworks.com/Acme-Guitar-Works-Wiring-Diagrams-W8.aspx#sasss1" target="_blank">Strat Blender Pot Modification HERE</a><br />
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                    <img src="images/misc/quote_icon.png" alt="Quote" /> Originally Posted by <strong> Mike Eldred, Fender Custom Shop</strong>

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                    <div class="message">The discussion about nitro (and many things on forums like these) is largely based on folklore, innuendo, and assumption that it &quot;sounds better&quot;. Poppycock.</div>

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                    • #55






                      Quote Originally Posted by tlbonehead
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                      which company is older between UPS and FedEx? I believe it is UPS. So there is room for both of them to co-exist. Does that make them a co-monopoly? And what about USPS?




                      UPS is much older. I think they started in the 1920's or 30's. When two or more companies control the dominant portion of the market share it is called an oligopoly. When an oligopoly engages in collusion (illegal in the U.S.) it is a cartel.



                      FedEx started out as an airmail only delivery so they didn't compete directly with UPS until they had a large enough infrastructure and were able to do so.



                      The USPS is by definition a monopoly as it is illegal to compete directly against them. UPS and FedEx are not allowed to deliver mail door to door. They are a package delivery service.
                      <div class="signaturecontainer">♪ <b>Cats 'n' Strats, 'cause that's how I roll</b> <img src="http://img3.harmony-central.com/acapella/ubb/thumb.gif" border="0" alt="" title="thumbs up" class="inlineimg" /><br />
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                      I Surf therefore I am. <img src="http://img3.harmony-central.com/acapella/ubb/cool.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Cool" class="inlineimg" /><br />
                      <a href="http://www.acmeguitarworks.com/Acme-Guitar-Works-Wiring-Diagrams-W8.aspx#sasss1" target="_blank">Strat Blender Pot Modification HERE</a><br />
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                      <img src="images/misc/quote_icon.png" alt="Quote" /> Originally Posted by <strong> Mike Eldred, Fender Custom Shop</strong>

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                      <div class="message">The discussion about nitro (and many things on forums like these) is largely based on folklore, innuendo, and assumption that it &quot;sounds better&quot;. Poppycock.</div>

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                      • #56






                        Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Morbius
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                        UPS is much older. I think they started in the 1920's or 30's. When two or more companies control the dominant portion of the market share it is called an oligopoly. When an oligopoly engages in collusion (illegal in the U.S.) it is a cartel.



                        FedEx started out as an airmail only delivery so they didn't compete directly with UPS until they had a large enough infrastructure and were able to do so.



                        The USPS is by definition a monopoly as it is illegal to compete directly against them. UPS and FedEx are not allowed to deliver mail door to door. They are a package delivery service.




                        yes, yes, I understand all that stuff. All pretty basic stuff. I'll just have to disagree with you. Microsoft is different in that they did unethical stuff to smash the competition, somewhat like the old Rockefeller Standard Oil. As for USPS, obviously you must realize I was referring to the part where they directly compete against each other.
                        <div class="signaturecontainer"><a href="mailto:tlbonehead@yahoo.com">tlbonehead@yaho o.com</a><br />
                        <a href="http://www.myspace.com/tbone_tommy" target="_blank">www.myspace.com/tbone_tommy</a><br />
                        -For Sale: <br />
                        -set of GFS Dream 90s- gold and black pearl- $40 shipped in the cont. US<br />
                        -(2) Celestion G12M-70 16 ohm guitar speakers in good condition $40 ea. + shipping.<br />
                        - Vox VT15 Valvetronix very clean - $85 + shipping<br />
                        - Hughes Kettner Edition Tube 20 (the early Voxy sounding one) Sounds &amp; looks good. $250 + shipping. <b>SOLD</b><br />
                        - Crate Palomino V8 - 10&quot; Celestion - Very clean - on Ebay (sold)</div>

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                        • #57






                          Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Morbius
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                          UPS is much older. I think they started in the 1920's or 30's. When two or more companies control the dominant portion of the market share it is called an oligopoly. When an oligopoly engages in collusion (illegal in the U.S.) it is a cartel.



                          FedEx started out as an airmail only delivery so they didn't compete directly with UPS until they had a large enough infrastructure and were able to do so.



                          The USPS is by definition a monopoly as it is illegal to compete directly against them. UPS and FedEx are not allowed to deliver mail door to door. They are a package delivery service.




                          yes, yes, I understand all that stuff. All pretty basic stuff. I'll just have to disagree with you. Microsoft is different in that they did unethical stuff to smash the competition, somewhat like the old Rockefeller Standard Oil. As for USPS, obviously you must realize I was referring to the part where they directly compete against each other.
                          <div class="signaturecontainer"><a href="mailto:tlbonehead@yahoo.com">tlbonehead@yaho o.com</a><br />
                          <a href="http://www.myspace.com/tbone_tommy" target="_blank">www.myspace.com/tbone_tommy</a><br />
                          -For Sale: <br />
                          -set of GFS Dream 90s- gold and black pearl- $40 shipped in the cont. US<br />
                          -(2) Celestion G12M-70 16 ohm guitar speakers in good condition $40 ea. + shipping.<br />
                          - Vox VT15 Valvetronix very clean - $85 + shipping<br />
                          - Hughes Kettner Edition Tube 20 (the early Voxy sounding one) Sounds &amp; looks good. $250 + shipping. <b>SOLD</b><br />
                          - Crate Palomino V8 - 10&quot; Celestion - Very clean - on Ebay (sold)</div>

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                          • #58
                            I actually prefer using CL for buying but my biggest complaint there is when I do find a guitar I am interested in doing a nationwide search too often the seller will not consider shipping it to me, even when I offer him a premium over the actual cost of doing so.



                            I understand a seller's concern over getting scammed but even after speaking with them in a phone call many still end up being too lazy frankly to complete a sale, no matter how safe the payment procedure I offer them is.



                            A USPS Money Order is every bit as certain as cash money. Going to a post office to redeem it cannot be that big an imposition, can it?
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                            • #59
                              I actually prefer using CL for buying but my biggest complaint there is when I do find a guitar I am interested in doing a nationwide search too often the seller will not consider shipping it to me, even when I offer him a premium over the actual cost of doing so.



                              I understand a seller's concern over getting scammed but even after speaking with them in a phone call many still end up being too lazy frankly to complete a sale, no matter how safe the payment procedure I offer them is.



                              A USPS Money Order is every bit as certain as cash money. Going to a post office to redeem it cannot be that big an imposition, can it?
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                              <img src="images/misc/quote_icon.png" alt="Quote" /> Originally Posted by <strong>Oyaji</strong>
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                              • #60
                                People who think ebay and CL suck need to properly look at the alternatives. Newspapers are a great way to reach the people in your town who read it; classifieds cost too and it's still gonna be that same small pond you're reaching; swap meets are a scary joke where mutant scumbags will haggle with you just for sport and the grapevine can be great for higher end stuff where the guys all have money, but crap for those of us trying to unload mid-ranged gear where "I owe yous" are the norm.

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