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  • #31






    Quote Originally Posted by cheezit66
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    There's a segment of HCEG composed of super-busy guys with many commitments. They've got no time for the tuning / the practicing / etc., and they just want to ROCK and ROCK NOW. Many of them have thousands and thousands of posts, so somehow they find time for the keyboard and the forum. Go figure.




    Or, perhaps, some of us like to embrace new technology that helps us more efficiently practice guitar. Some of us aren't stuck in the dark ages.
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    • #32






      Quote Originally Posted by Grantus
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      Or, perhaps, some of us like to embrace new technology that helps us more efficiently practice guitar. Some of us aren't stuck in the dark ages.




      Sorry dude, but I stuck it out with getting my ears in shape and today am able to pick up (many) songs by ear. It's not the "dark ages" method, it's the one that actually helps you develop a skill. Do what you want, but don't put us down for doing it right.

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      • #33






        Quote Originally Posted by Canadian Jeff
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        but don't put us down for doing it right.




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        • #34






          Quote Originally Posted by TunerAddict
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          Good point, dawg.

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          • #35






            Quote Originally Posted by Canadian Jeff
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            Sorry dude, but I stuck it out with getting my ears in shape and today am able to pick up (many) songs by ear. It's not the "dark ages" method, it's the one that actually helps you develop a skill. Do what you want, but don't put us down for doing it right.




            I'm not putting you down. The "dark ages" comment was directed at the poster who seemed to be making fun of new technology.



            If learning songs from MP3s turns your crank, go for it. Learning by ear is a good skill to have.



            But if we're just talking about learning to play, I'm not sure it's "doing it right," compared to learning songs from tab, or Rocksmith, or a live guitar teacher, or TrueFire or some other modern method.
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            • #36
              Dark ages! I don't think there are to many modern players that don't use their ears to play music. Kind of like most of them are using guitars and equipment from the dark ages as well. Whatever can help someone is great. For others those tools serve no purpose. I don't use or have any need for tab either but that doesn't mean It shouldn't help someone else.

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              • #37






                Quote Originally Posted by Grantus
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                I'm not putting you down. The "dark ages" comment was directed at the poster who seemed to be making fun of new technology.



                If learning songs from MP3s turns your crank, go for it. Learning by ear is a good skill to have.



                But if we're just talking about learning to play, I'm not sure it's "doing it right," compared to learning songs from tab, or Rocksmith, or a live guitar teacher, or TrueFire or some other modern method.




                A guitar teacher with with a solid reputation and some experience is the easy way to do it right. Learning from books and self-teaching is the hard way to do it right. Every other way is teeming with 'wrong' elements. I'm trying to not be a hater on here anymore, but things like Rocksmith do potential musicians a disservice by presenting themselves as a legitimate way to learn the guitar.

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                • #38






                  Quote Originally Posted by Canadian Jeff
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                  A guitar teacher with with a solid reputation and some experience is the easy way to do it right.




                  From around age 14 to age 18 I burned up $30 a week on lessons. The guy was a Berklee grad with a great reputation. He never explained basic concepts like keys and he only taught me two positions of the pentatonic scale, one he called major (first position) and one he called minor (second position, but only on the 3 high strings). I never got much from him other than confusion and he was the best guitar teacher in town. I could have spent that money on a USA Strat and Doug Marks

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                  • #39






                    Quote Originally Posted by jpnyc
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                    From around age 14 to age 18 I burned up $30 a week on lessons. The guy was a Berklee grad with a great reputation. He never explained basic concepts like keys and he only taught me two positions of the pentatonic scale, one he called major (first position) and one he called minor (second position, but only on the 3 high strings). I never got much from him other than confusion and he was the best guitar teacher in town. I could have spent that money on a USA Strat and Doug Marks

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                    • #40






                      Quote Originally Posted by arrowhen
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                      Sitting at your desk typing on the forums looks pretty much like work to the casual observer; sitting at your desk practicing guitar ain't fooling anyone.




                      No ****************. "I'm working hard, boss!! Gotta stay late (posting, hee hee!)"



                      My attitude is: when I'm at work, I work. I leave at a reasonable time and have time for the rest of my life, including playing guitar (without latching onto shortcuts, gimmicks and excuses).



                      Meanwhile the dope down the hall stays till 9pm, talks and talks about how hard they work, and their work product is crap.
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                      • #41
                        My friend owns the game and I think it's pretty fun despite its flaws. I've learned how to pick up songs by ear for the most part, but I'm not often motivated to sit down and just learn a whole song. Turning practice into a game makes it a lot easier to learn things, but I would still call Rocksmith a game first and a practice aid second.

                        Another fringe benefit would be that the game introduces you to genres and playing styles you might not usually pay attention to and forces you to give it a go, which should be beneficial for any guitarist.

                        I'd like to see what other sort of games like this come out that blur the line between entertainment and actual skill-building. It can only get more interesting from here.



                        As for the whole "correct way to practice" thing, I personally think that nobody should limit themselves to any single learning technique. Learning to play by ear is a valuable skill but it takes time and everyone learns at their own pace. If using a game to practice helps you enjoy playing guitar, go for it.
                        Originally Posted by metalheadUK


                        I dont understand any of 'em.

                        If it has strings and plays, and makes a noise, I'll play it for whatever.

                        Ibby 7 string for Blues,a Dano for teh brootalz, or a Steiny for Punk, I dont care what it is as long as it works!

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                        • #42
                          Never tried the game thingy, but another alternative that's great for quickly seeing how a rif, section or entire song is done (as posted by the author, you can of course use your ears to decide if they are accurate enough for your liking)is songster.com ...

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                          • #43






                            Quote Originally Posted by Canadian Jeff
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                            Sorry dude, but I stuck it out with getting my ears in shape and today am able to pick up (many) songs by ear. It's not the "dark ages" method, it's the one that actually helps you develop a skill. Do what you want, but don't put us down for doing it right.




                            I can pickup songs by ear, and have been able to do so for many years. Rocksmith is still a fun way to practice, and I like it. Your argument that your way is somehow right is absurd and invalid.
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                            • #44






                              Quote Originally Posted by Canadian Jeff
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                              A guitar teacher with with a solid reputation and some experience is the easy way to do it right. Learning from books and self-teaching is the hard way to do it right. Every other way is teeming with 'wrong' elements. I'm trying to not be a hater on here anymore, but things like Rocksmith do potential musicians a disservice by presenting themselves as a legitimate way to learn the guitar.




                              You teach guitar, don't you?
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                              • #45
                                Looks like Nickelback DLC is coming to Rocksmith next week.



                                I take back every positive thing I've said about this game.

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