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  • #31
    If I agreed with this we'd both be wrong.











    Quote Originally Posted by sammyreynolds01
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    The SE's in my opnion are in the same range with the Squire CV's.




    MIA Fender Strat / Gibson Les Paul Studio / Custom Telecaster / Washburn WI66 / Custom Stratocaster / Martin D15S / Guild D55 / Simon & Patrick Cedar / Martin HD16R LSH​

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    • #32
      No, just spreading a little budget cachet to whet the apetite, the same way Gibson and Fender have done for years.
      My 9/11 Tribute Song: https://vimeo.com/49284582

      The 9/11 Wall of Shame (caught stepping in it):
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3s4_dkKn8Y
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6Xoxaf1Al0
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jPzAakHPpk
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n7uJ...feature=relmfu
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU961SGps8g

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      • #33
        No, just spreading a little budget cachet to whet the apetite, the same way Gibson and Fender have done for years.
        My 9/11 Tribute Song: https://vimeo.com/49284582

        The 9/11 Wall of Shame (caught stepping in it):
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3s4_dkKn8Y
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6Xoxaf1Al0
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jPzAakHPpk
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n7uJ...feature=relmfu
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU961SGps8g

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        • #34
          Only problem PRS has is all their guitars are a little weaksauce. No Mojo anymore, than again I should have known this in 1992 when my 16 year old friends were buying them. Yes I wish I was smart enough to stick one in a closet.
          Originally Posted by csm


          You get a limited-edition self-relic'ing guitar at no extra cost and you're COMPLAINING?



          [Insert religious affiliation political party and or spiritual belief here]

          57 Gibson Cg-530, 66 Teisco Mosrite "clone", 78 Rickenbacker something or other, 80's St. Blues, Classic Vibe 60's strat, Fender Blacktop HH strat, Switch Sig Stein, Switch Tele style, Austin SG, Yamaha something, lol.
          Vox Ampeg Peavey Hartke Bogen and Bugera amps, every tube pedal i can find. Muff. Loopers.

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          • #35
            Only problem PRS has is all their guitars are a little weaksauce. No Mojo anymore, than again I should have known this in 1992 when my 16 year old friends were buying them. Yes I wish I was smart enough to stick one in a closet.
            Originally Posted by csm


            You get a limited-edition self-relic'ing guitar at no extra cost and you're COMPLAINING?



            [Insert religious affiliation political party and or spiritual belief here]

            57 Gibson Cg-530, 66 Teisco Mosrite "clone", 78 Rickenbacker something or other, 80's St. Blues, Classic Vibe 60's strat, Fender Blacktop HH strat, Switch Sig Stein, Switch Tele style, Austin SG, Yamaha something, lol.
            Vox Ampeg Peavey Hartke Bogen and Bugera amps, every tube pedal i can find. Muff. Loopers.

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            • #36






              Quote Originally Posted by cbh5150
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              No.




              I will echo that response and expand upon it by saying,



              "NO"
              A '57 Classic, MIJ from USA parts.
              HCEG Existentialism: I buy guitars, therefore, I am.
              Well Dick, it's got a good beat, and I could dance to it, so I give it a 10!
              I have opinions of my own,strong opinions but I don't always agree with them.

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              • #37






                Quote Originally Posted by cbh5150
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                No.




                I will echo that response and expand upon it by saying,



                "NO"
                A '57 Classic, MIJ from USA parts.
                HCEG Existentialism: I buy guitars, therefore, I am.
                Well Dick, it's got a good beat, and I could dance to it, so I give it a 10!
                I have opinions of my own,strong opinions but I don't always agree with them.

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                • #38






                  Quote Originally Posted by nicholai
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                  Only problem PRS has is all their guitars are a little weaksauce. No Mojo anymore, than again I should have known this in 1992 when my 16 year old friends were buying them. Yes I wish I was smart enough to stick one in a closet.




                  Once the Custom 24 became required gear for the nu metal crowd in the mid-late 90's, I lost interest. Then I heard what Alex Lifeson was doing with the bolt on, no frills CE 24, I bought one. It's a tremendously versatile guitar with undeniable ergonomics and it absolutely rocks my new Boogie Mark V (which Lifeson has also adopted).



                  Once PRS won its court battle against Gibson, they went vintage with not only the single cuts, but their Cu 22 And 24's with 50's voiced pickups. The HFS is once again available as an option on the new Cu 24.



                  They are definitely an American success story and I think that they helped throw down the gauntlet for Gibson and Fender to rethink the quality of their products.

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                  • #39






                    Quote Originally Posted by nicholai
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                    Only problem PRS has is all their guitars are a little weaksauce. No Mojo anymore, than again I should have known this in 1992 when my 16 year old friends were buying them. Yes I wish I was smart enough to stick one in a closet.




                    Once the Custom 24 became required gear for the nu metal crowd in the mid-late 90's, I lost interest. Then I heard what Alex Lifeson was doing with the bolt on, no frills CE 24, I bought one. It's a tremendously versatile guitar with undeniable ergonomics and it absolutely rocks my new Boogie Mark V (which Lifeson has also adopted).



                    Once PRS won its court battle against Gibson, they went vintage with not only the single cuts, but their Cu 22 And 24's with 50's voiced pickups. The HFS is once again available as an option on the new Cu 24.



                    They are definitely an American success story and I think that they helped throw down the gauntlet for Gibson and Fender to rethink the quality of their products.

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                    • #40
                      I'd say it helped them a lot. Besides making lots of money for them it plants the PRS "seed" in more guitarist mind in that they have the SE and love it but they know the more expensive models are "better" so when the time comes to upgrade and spend $2K+ on a guitar rather than buying a Gibson they are more likely to get a PRS...
                      Member of the SG Army

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                      • #41
                        The SE line competes with Epiphone, low-end Fenders and other similarly priced guitars, not $2k PRSes.
                        No sig.

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                        • #42






                          Quote Originally Posted by Grantus
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                          The SE line competes with Epiphone, low-end Fenders and other similarly priced guitars, not $2k PRSes.




                          I disagree with you somewhat.



                          The Construction and materials of the PRS SE line are well above any cheap Fender. I also would say it is well above Epiphone.



                          The SE is EQUAL in my opinion....to the Epiphone Elitist line.



                          There is not a chinese, or mexican fender that I have played, that comes close to the SE 245 I own.



                          Folks bitching about the tuners........simply tighter the phillips-head screw on top of the tuner button...they are a bit loose from factory and hence slip easily.



                          The Pickups have grown on me, yes they are not as bright or articulate as my Gibson humbuckers, but they are still pretty decent sounding. If you doubt it....just look up the Bernie Marsden video where he is A/Bing his signature SE PRS against his 1950's Les Paul!!!!!!!!!!
                          Originally Posted by chainsaw fats
                          Can I drink your piss?




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                          • #43
                            I say no.

                            The person who's looking for a 10 top with a rosewood neck is not going to change their mind for an SE.

                            And typically the person looking for an SE does not want a fancy ten top or rosewood neck.

                            No matter how you slice it if you end up with an SE you're getting a very nice guitar.
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                            • #44
                              Agreeing with some of the earlier posts, I think the SE line is a very good introduction to PRS guitars. They have arguably the best "budget" guitar line in the industry. And as Bryan alludes to, they aren't a close substitute for anything, really, in the PRS stable. It's just a taste; if you like it and want more, then you can move up the line.



                              The only drawback that I can see about the SE line is all the variation. The design ideas vary widely. It's hard to point to one guitar that's the flagship of the SE line. The earlier SEs, like the original SE Custom, did a better job of establishing the line. Now it's gotten a little scattershot, I think.
                              Originally Posted by csm


                              The first, and most frequently violated rule of punk is: THERE ARE NO RULES.



                              "You know, once you've had that guitar up so loud on the stage, where you can lean back and volume will stop you from falling backward, that's a hard drug to kick." — David Gilmour

                              Fender :: Gibson :: Epiphone :: Ibanez :: Yamaha
                              Blackstar :: Orange :: Vox

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                              • #45
                                I've yet to play a PRS SE that I liked.

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