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  • Pedalboard overhaul: Boss GT-10 vs. Vox Tonelab LE

    I'm tired of hauling around my pedals to jams and having to hook them all up and take them down. I'm tired of the added noise, and having to write down settings and changing them between songs and guitars. So I've decided to clear out my pedal board and go for an all-in-one unit, just as long as it sounds good.

    I'm replacing these:
    - Dunlop Crybaby
    - Boss TU-2 Tuner
    - Boss CS-3 Compressor/Sustainer
    - Dano Fish & Chips EQ
    - Dano Pastrami OD
    - Visual Sound Jekyll & Hyde OD/Distortion
    - Ibanez DE-7 Delay
    - EHX Russian Big Muff Pi
    - EHX The Worm Phaser/Wah/Tremolo/Vibrato
    - EHX Small Clone Chorus

    With either the Tonelab LE or the GT-10. I usually play with a moderate overdrive set on my amp (Nomad 45 or VTM-60), and then push it with a pedal for distortion and back off the volume for cleans. The heaviest distortion I usually go for is like the Foo Fighters tone. Heavy but still punchy and cleans up well.

    I want something that will adequately replace my existing board without me missing anything from it. I want to be able to switch individual effects on or off, if possible. I want to be able to bypass amp/cab modeling when using my amp, and also use it for direct recording to Pro Tools. I like my tone nice and dynamic, because I play around with my picking and the guitar volume knob a lot.

    Tomorrow I'll be hauling my amp to the store to try them both out, but I wanted to know what your experiences with these units is/was like.

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  • #2
    An all-in-one will never sound as good as all of your pedals individually with a gate :-/
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    • #3
      An all-in-one will never sound as good as all of your pedals individually with a gate :-/


      This is true, the processors do lose something in the translation, however, unless you're a professional musician (and making your living off of music, you should be fine with an all-in-one).

      I use a Tonelab SE and have for the last 4 yrs (gigging regularly) so I would say go with the Vox. My buddy has the GT-10 and they're cool and have features the Vox doesn't, but I don't think it sounds as good; must be the tube that makes the difference. I've run the Vox just as a recording tool while in the studio and I've also gigged with it plugged into my JCM900 as well as just run it through the PA; it's been great in all scenarios. Just keep in mind that if you gig with it straight to the PA, bring a real amp as a back up (I've seen too many people end up hosed at a gig when their all-in-one crapped out and they didn't have an amp to plug into).
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      • #4
        An all-in-one will never sound as good as all of your pedals individually with a gate :-/


        Tried that. I could never get a good gate setting on my dirty sound that didn't completely kill my clean sound.
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        • #5
          This is true, the processors do lose something in the translation, however, unless you're a professional musician (and making your living off of music, you should be fine with an all-in-one).

          I use a Tonelab SE and have for the last 4 yrs (gigging regularly) so I would say go with the Vox. My buddy has the GT-10 and they're cool and have features the Vox doesn't, but I don't think it sounds as good; must be the tube that makes the difference. I've run the Vox just as a recording tool while in the studio and I've also gigged with it plugged into my JCM900 as well as just run it through the PA; it's been great in all scenarios. Just keep in mind that if you gig with it straight to the PA, bring a real amp as a back up (I've seen too many people end up hosed at a gig when their all-in-one crapped out and they didn't have an amp to plug into).


          I play for fun in a couple bands, nothing serious. I've only ever gigged once with the PodXT without bringing my amp, but it was for an acoustic gig with only one song on the electric and I didn't feel like hauling the amp. I usually have the Nomad and my pedal board, and the XT as a backup in case a tube decides to die, even though I carry spares.

          Thanks for your insight!
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          • #6
            I've used a number of different floor processors over the years, but settled on the Vox units. I started with a Tonelab SE, but sold it to get the LE, which is more compact due to having only one expression pedal (I use it exclusively for wah), and more models/effects. I love my LE. It's a little fussy to get used to (requires some tweaking to get the sounds you want, organized the way you want), but is very useful once you master it.
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            • #7
              I've gigged for 6/7 years with a gt6, and it stands everything, hot/cold/moist/beer never went down. My nokia cell phone has dropped to the floor hundreds of times, when it landed on my gt6 in broke it's visor.

              Tho I never tried this

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              sound wise, try both and see what you like
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              • #8
                I have a GT-8 that i use for times when i cba dragging everything around
                (its sometimes nice to do a gig with just a backpack and a guitar case)

                and yes, while it may never sound 100% like having a full rig with you,
                for ease you can't beat it, and give it some time to tweak, and you can make it sound decent

                i definatly reccoment a GT
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                • #9
                  I have a GT-6, which I've used live for years - straight into the PA. It's effects are excellent and the OD/distortion tones are pretty good as well

                  It's as tough as hell. It's had a full pint of beer poured all over it, it's been dropped from a 6 foot stage and worse.

                  I also have a Tonelab LE, which I bought to try and get a more authentic OD/distortion tone. I basically bought it to replace my GT-6.

                  I've been working with it for months and I can't get it to sound as good my GT-6. It does produce an excellent AC30TB type crunch tone and vintage wah effect but I can't quite get it to be as .... professional sounding as the GT-6 does, in overall terms.

                  That's an odd thing to say but it's the only way I can describe it.

                  I have been looking at another replacement for my GT-6, which is the TC Electronic Nova System Guitar Multi Effects Pedal.

                  I'd need to have a good look at it but from what I've read about it, it may be the way to go.


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                  • #10
                    Thanks for the info so far guys! That TC unit looks nice, but wouldn't have enough OD/Fuzz options for me.

                    Keep it coming!
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                    • #11
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                      • #12
                        Don't sell your pedals until you try an all in one. I don't think you'll like it as much as you think you will...I've gone that route (sold pedals, bought GNX3) and hated it.
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                        1998 Squire MIM Stratocaster
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                        • #13
                          Don't sell your pedals until you try an all in one. I don't think you'll like it as much as you think you will...I've gone that route (sold pedals, bought GNX3) and hated it.


                          same here ive bought a gnx3 a rp500 in hopes that it would simplify my rig but returned them both. nothing wrong with owning a multi fx unit as an alternative to your board but it shouldnt replace it. they sound great at times but i just love the simplicity of being able to bend over and turn knobs without going through menus etc to tweak an effect.

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                          • #14
                            Yup, programming the multi-effects units can be a pain in the rear. So much more simple to make adjustments on the fly...
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                            2008 Fender American Standard Telecaster
                            1998 Squire MIM Stratocaster
                            Takamine acoustic
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                            • #15
                              I think you will regret selling them but if you still go ahead and sell them for either the Boss or the Vox how much you want for the Crybaby?
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