Members Mad Tele Posted February 15, 2013 Members Share Posted February 15, 2013 robbie kreigerangus youngpagekeefpeople try to argue these guys arent that good but I think they are all awesome. why doesnt anyone argue link wray wasnt that good? I mean technically hes not but hes still badass. even keef admits him without jagger and jagger without him they would both still be wanna-bes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members allthumz Posted February 15, 2013 Members Share Posted February 15, 2013 I like players that might have questionable technical playing talent but I do love talent to write or collaborate on great songs. Neil Young and John Lennon come to mind. I even love rock 'n roll that is just a little bit out of tune and technically primitive production-wise. Heart and soul is where it's at for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members billybilly Posted February 15, 2013 Members Share Posted February 15, 2013 How are we defining talent here? Most of the players I like might not be the best technically but have feel, that is where talent lies for me. Being able to convey feeling through their music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elias Graves Posted February 15, 2013 Members Share Posted February 15, 2013 A huge piece of "making it" has to do with one's ability to put on a show. Entertainment value trumps talent in most cases. If that weren't so, Yo Yo Ma would have 50,000 screaming girls throwing their panties at him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kayd_mon Posted February 15, 2013 Members Share Posted February 15, 2013 Van Halen!No really, I really dig his rhythm, and he wrote some really awesome riffs in his Van Halen and Van Hagar days. Some of his solos are great, and others aren't really my favorite, but I dig most of his rhythm playing. I also love Pearl Jam, and while Mike McCready usually sticks to (sometimes boxy, though well-executed) penatonic solos, his playing can still get me going. Stone Gossard doesn't shred, but he can solo with some great feel, and he's an ace rhythm player. I think Pete Townshend's solos are downplayed next to his rhythm chops, but some of his solos are really great. The Young brothers in AC/DC manage to sound bigger than just about anyone else, and they tend to keep it simple. Some say they're not all that great, but they sure as hell sound great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gibsunLPgoldtop Posted February 15, 2013 Members Share Posted February 15, 2013 Jeff Beck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members genesis3 Posted February 15, 2013 Members Share Posted February 15, 2013 I don't question the talent of any of my favorites, 'cuz otherwise it's highly unlikely they would be favorites ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members larry50 Posted February 16, 2013 Members Share Posted February 16, 2013 Jimmy Page has "questionable talent"?You're kidding, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members larry50 Posted February 16, 2013 Members Share Posted February 16, 2013 kayd_mon wrote: Van Halen! No really, I really dig his rhythm, and he wrote some really awesome riffs in his Van Halen and Van Hagar days. Some of his solos are great, and others aren't really my favorite, but I dig most of his rhythm playing. I also love Pearl Jam, and while Mike McCready usually sticks to (sometimes boxy, though well-executed) penatonic solos, his playing can still get me going. Stone Gossard doesn't shred, but he can solo with some great feel, and he's an ace rhythm player. I think Pete Townshend's solos are downplayed next to his rhythm chops, but some of his solos are really great. The Young brothers in AC/DC manage to sound bigger than just about anyone else, and they tend to keep it simple. Some say they're not all that great, but they sure as hell sound great. Well, that's because he's one of the greatest rhythm guitarists ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tone Deaf Posted February 16, 2013 Members Share Posted February 16, 2013 J MascisNeil YoungSonic Youth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members kayd_mon Posted February 16, 2013 Members Share Posted February 16, 2013 Your rebuttal is as subjective as the suggestions. I think if you take the question as-is, obvious Angus Young doesn't possess the technical prowess of many of today's monster technical players, though he sounds awesome, and we like his blues soloing. Jimmy Page goes down as one of the most sloppy players to be called a guitar god, indicating some limits in talent. Yet we still love those Zep riffs. Perfectly acceptable answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kayd_mon Posted February 16, 2013 Members Share Posted February 16, 2013 *technique, not talent for Page. My phone's auto correct is malfunctioning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members Dr. Scottie C Posted February 16, 2013 Members Share Posted February 16, 2013 kayd_mon wrote: Your rebuttal is as subjective as the suggestions. I think if you take the question as-is, obvious Angus Young doesn't possess the technical prowess of many of today's monster technical players, though he sounds awesome, and we like his blues soloing. Jimmy Page goes down as one of the most sloppy players to be called a guitar god, indicating some limits in talent. Yet we still love those Zep riffs. Perfectly acceptable answers. Kayd- Usually we agree...but not on this one.I think part of Pagey's un-subconcious sound is his "slurring" of notes......ie: what 98% of his critics call "sloppy."There is not a question in my mind that had Page wanted to in his prime, he could have "cleaned up" his playing had he wanted to, but it was part of the his defined style.On a side note...as far as MY personal taste is concerned.... players like Eric Johnson and Frank Gambale bore me to death.... every note perfectly executed....yuck.... sounds like a robot playing guitar. I'll pass. Give me Page anyday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kevman Posted February 17, 2013 Members Share Posted February 17, 2013 Ace? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members alien Posted February 18, 2013 Members Share Posted February 18, 2013 Phil kollins de la o'kWeefes! Winnar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kayd_mon Posted February 18, 2013 Members Share Posted February 18, 2013 I took the OP to mean, "who's not a technical monster, but you love anyway?" I think that everyone named here has considerable talent, and that's why I (and many others here) love their music. Page is awesome! But he's not a perfect technique type of player. Still love the music, and the slurs and slop are part of that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members docjeffrey Posted February 18, 2013 Members Share Posted February 18, 2013 Can you imagine what rock would be like if we only valued technical expertise? Our music would sound like every Asian metal band you've ever heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kevman Posted February 18, 2013 Members Share Posted February 18, 2013 I still pick Ace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mad Tele Posted February 18, 2013 Author Members Share Posted February 18, 2013 Kevman wrote: I still pick Ace. yeah hes a well bashed, well loved guitarist. a pioneer in that respect. lol he had some tasty tones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members inu Posted February 19, 2013 Members Share Posted February 19, 2013 Let's consider that we speak about technique, not "talent". Tony Iommi... well, he even has a few fingers less than most Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sic07 Posted February 20, 2013 Members Share Posted February 20, 2013 Steve Jones from The Sex Pistols and most guitarists from the indie scene. In reality in music you dont really need to be a virtuoso you just need a good melody and rythm and everybody will love it. In reality I don't know any person that is not a guitarist that like Steve Vai, Joe Satriani or Ingwe Malsteem or any of these "virtuosos". Personally I really don't like them it feel likes im hearing a guitarist that is trying way too hard though they are great players but I'll take a good four power chord song over a fifty millon notes and arpeggios song. This was one of my biggest arguments with the guitarist of my former band he is a fantastic player I think he's one of the few guitarist that I have met that have a great talent and is or could be a virtuoso but my argument with him was not to overcomplicate songs because in the end while playing live the other band members and me would be prone to make more mistakes live but he never heard me and the band broke up because of this we were a solid band a great band but since it was his band he didn't wanted to hear any ideas even if he told us to give some ideas for songs.Either way in the rock scene today the guitar hero doesn't exist and nobody gives a {censored} about solos which I'm happy about because I really never cared about soloing I could do a small solo but I really prefer playing chords is funner and people enjoy it more. In the end were you make all the money is between the 1st fret and 10th fret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BydoEmpire Posted February 20, 2013 Members Share Posted February 20, 2013 Sic07 wrote: In reality in music you dont really need to be a virtuoso you just need a good melody and rythm and everybody will love it. ...In the end were you make all the money is between the 1st fret and 10th fret. Rhythm and melody are important no matter what the genre. I don't mind some genres of music being "niche" - it doesn't lessen (or increase) their value to me. If it's a four chord song with those elements, great, but just because the music is fast and/or difficult to play doesn't make it any less melodic or rhythmically interesting. It's just a matter of taste. Pagannini's pieces can be difficult to play, but they sound amazing when someone really good performs them. Same for Charlie Parker, Joe Pass, or Steve Vai or Paul Gilbert. Do I prefer them to Hank Williams Sr? Sometimes. Sometimes not.I think the Chet Atkins quote was that all the money is between the 1st fret and 3rd fret! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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