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  • goddammmmmitttt. I'm too late.

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    • Quote Originally Posted by docjeffrey
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      I haven't read all of the responses, but that guitar is worthy of a good craftsman like you'd find through Dan Erlewine, George Gruhn, or Elderly. The original finish should be preserved (if that's the original) at all costs. Don't let someone **************** it up with a rattle can or a ****************ty half assed amateurish job. It may have more holes than it takes to fill the Albert Hall, but it's still an old Les Paul made in Kalamazoo with old wood--probably Honduran Mahogany and Michigan Maple--possibly Brazilian Rosewood.



      Try to preserve as much as you can. Just say no to a complete refin.



      Sorry to be a dick.




      I think you're a little late.
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      • Quote Originally Posted by docjeffrey
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        I haven't read all of the responses, but that guitar is worthy of a good craftsman like you'd find through Dan Erlewine, George Gruhn, or Elderly. The original finish should be preserved (if that's the original) at all costs. Don't let someone **************** it up with a rattle can or a ****************ty half assed amateurish job. It may have more holes than it takes to fill the Albert Hall, but it's still an old Les Paul made in Kalamazoo with old wood--probably Honduran Mahogany and Michigan Maple--possibly Brazilian Rosewood.



        Try to preserve as much as you can. Just say no to a complete refin.



        Sorry to be a dick.






        You should have read the entire thread first.



        Good Craftsman? Check.

        No rattle cans? Check.



        The guitar will end up being something the owner actually likes. It isn't really worth much in it's current state and most likely would not be worth any more if restored to 100% stock condition than it will be when done in the black top configuration.



        It's just a guitar ya know.
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        • Quote Originally Posted by docjeffrey
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          I haven't read all of the responses, but that guitar is worthy of a good craftsman like you'd find through Dan Erlewine, George Gruhn, or Elderly. The original finish should be preserved (if that's the original) at all costs. Don't let someone **************** it up with a rattle can or a ****************ty half assed amateurish job. It may have more holes than it takes to fill the Albert Hall, but it's still an old Les Paul made in Kalamazoo with old wood--probably Honduran Mahogany and Michigan Maple--possibly Brazilian Rosewood.



          Try to preserve as much as you can. Just say no to a complete refin.



          Sorry to be a dick.




          I pretty much agree. This is also why I can't stand it when people take old Firebirds and turn them into Camaros, or close enough with a Chevy motor. Oh well.
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          • Quote Originally Posted by milosch
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            I pretty much agree. This is also why I can't stand it when people take old Firebirds and turn them into Camaros, or close enough with a Chevy motor. Oh well.




            This isn't the same thing, as soon as someone put a Kahler on there it hit it's classic all original value and it aint never comin back from that, and to be honest even if it is an early Norlin Deluxe ie pre panckake it's value still ain't that high, and if it's anywhere in the 73-84 region it's still only worth about 2k at most, these are not collectors guitars, but when it's finished by a craftsman as good as Meandi, it'll certainly look a million dollars.



            If I were some of you guys I'd be looking for my favourite dressing for humble pie, cause you sure as **************** are gonna be eatin lots of it
            Music is a moral law. It gives soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination, and charm and gaiety to life and to everything. - Plato

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            • I've encountered this debate when I was doing cars a couple of times.

              One guy wants his 32 coupe restored as accurately as possible, feels that anything less is heresy & usually trys to proselyte others to his point of view .

              Another wants to run his fenderless, chop the top, independant suspension, V8 power & air conditioning & feels that the other guy should lighten up & get a life.



              I've built them both ways, with my own criteria being only that the work was well done & that the owner was satisfied with the results.

              That's my approach to this project, as well.

              I'll leave the "sacred object" debate to others, because it's as subjective as what kind of music one likes to listen to or play.
              don;t always remember this so...best to all!
              education...how ya gonna know what to do...'less ya know what to do
              people will not always believe what you say
              but they have no choice but to believe what you do
              studied as a science...practiced as an art

              my build threads:

              archtop #1 mahogany/maccasar ebony
              archtop #2 maple/brazilian ebony
              GreatDanes blacktop Les Paul
              purpleheart/maple neck-through

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              • I have been following this since the beginning- I am so glad the finish is coming off as well as it is... that is going to be sweet!



                I know you probably did not need further confirmation, but that is definitely a maple neck, which is only going to make it look even better with the refin.



                I don't think I have ever been as excited about a thread... this is going to ROCK!
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                • Meandi, I'm eagerly waiting to see your work.



                  I've looked at your archtop thread, andknow that delights await.







                  (we really need a drooling smiley here. Come on, how are we meant to represent the true expression of our feelings in such threads, without a drooling smiley???? This is a ridiculous state of affair.)
                  Ant the Les Paul Lover!

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                  • Quote Originally Posted by Les Paul Lover
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                    Meandi, I'm eagerly waiting to see your work.



                    I've looked at your archtop thread, andknow that delights await.







                    (we really need a drooling smiley here. Come on, how are we meant to represent the true expression of our feelings in such threads, without a drooling smiley???? This is a ridiculous state of affair.)




                    Thanks for the compliment.

                    I guess this is about as close to the drool we've got...
                    don;t always remember this so...best to all!
                    education...how ya gonna know what to do...'less ya know what to do
                    people will not always believe what you say
                    but they have no choice but to believe what you do
                    studied as a science...practiced as an art

                    my build threads:

                    archtop #1 mahogany/maccasar ebony
                    archtop #2 maple/brazilian ebony
                    GreatDanes blacktop Les Paul
                    purpleheart/maple neck-through

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                    • this thread is amazing...the more pictures the better!!!
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                      • Yeah, but does not quite transfer the homerish frozen dreamy stupidity that a drooling smiley would...





                        Sob.....



                        Anyhow, enough typing Meandi, now get to work!!!!!!!



                        Ant the Les Paul Lover!

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                        • Quote Originally Posted by Les Paul Lover
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                          Yeah, but does not quite transfer the homerish frozen dreamy stupidity that a drooling smiley would...





                          Sob.....



                          Anyhow, enough typing Meandi, now get to work!!!!!!!







                          This do? or guess this is more Homerish, but my favourite would be
                          Music is a moral law. It gives soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination, and charm and gaiety to life and to everything. - Plato

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                          • Quote Originally Posted by Les Paul Lover
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                            Yeah, but does not quite transfer the homerish frozen dreamy stupidity that a drooling smiley would...





                            Sob.....



                            Anyhow, enough typing Meandi, now get to work!!!!!!!







                            I am working...the 'puter is a couple of rooms from the shop & prompts me via email when things are happenin here.
                            don;t always remember this so...best to all!
                            education...how ya gonna know what to do...'less ya know what to do
                            people will not always believe what you say
                            but they have no choice but to believe what you do
                            studied as a science...practiced as an art

                            my build threads:

                            archtop #1 mahogany/maccasar ebony
                            archtop #2 maple/brazilian ebony
                            GreatDanes blacktop Les Paul
                            purpleheart/maple neck-through

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                            • Quote Originally Posted by docjeffrey
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                              I haven't read all of the responses, but that guitar is worthy of a good craftsman like you'd find through Dan Erlewine, George Gruhn, or Elderly. The original finish should be preserved (if that's the original) at all costs. Don't let someone **************** it up with a rattle can or a ****************ty half assed amateurish job. It may have more holes than it takes to fill the Albert Hall, but it's still an old Les Paul made in Kalamazoo with old wood--probably Honduran Mahogany and Michigan Maple--possibly Brazilian Rosewood.



                              Try to preserve as much as you can. Just say no to a complete refin.



                              Sorry to be a dick.




                              woah, not honduran mahogany AND michigan maple!!



                              ****************s sake, it's a piece a wood and afterwards its gonna look ace, great choices on colour and hardware....and repairer/restorer for that matter!
                              It's spelt Squier.

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                              • Quote Originally Posted by meandi
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                                I am working...the 'puter is a couple of rooms from the shop & prompts me via email when things are happenin here.




                                That's OK then! (sorry, I do like to throw abusive comments every now and then....)









                                Quote Originally Posted by Ratae Coritanorum
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                                This do? or guess this is more Homerish, but my favourite would be






                                Yeap that last 2 are what I'm talking about!!!!!
                                Ant the Les Paul Lover!

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