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  • #16
    I heard back from meandi~ if no one will step in to do the whole thing (repair and finish work), then he'd be willing to do the repair work, but doesn't have the facilities for finish work. anyone with finishing skills want to take in the guitar from Meandi and do the "black top" full finish work?
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    • #17






      Quote Originally Posted by DaveAronow
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      If meandi is too busy, I would love to do it.




      wow, Dave~ i never knew you had these types of skills. got any pics of your work to share?
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      • #18






        Quote Originally Posted by guitarzan1143
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        i'd love to do it, but i have no such facility/gear for spraying good finishes, and im too impatient to work with spray cans, that is entirely possible to fix up really nice though, most local repair guys will bel ike "you cant do that", or "its not worth it", because they are lazy, inexperienced, etc.




        thank you for the encouragement. i would love to get her fixed up right~ she deserves it!
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        • #19
          Cool idea. If a member does end up taking on the job maybe they could post up a build thread here.

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          • #20






            Quote Originally Posted by GreatDane
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            I heard back from meandi~ if no one will step in to do the whole thing (repair and finish work), then he'd be willing to do the repair work, but doesn't have the facilities for finish work. anyone with finishing skills want to take in the guitar from Meandi and do the "black top" full finish work?






            Yeah, that is pretty much the same exact thing I said last year. However, I'm not taking any work at all till this Fall



            Good luck man. i hope you can get this thing done finally
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            • #21
              You thinking all nitro?
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              • #22






                Quote Originally Posted by guitarzan1143
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                i'd love to do it, but i have no such facility/gear for spraying good finishes, and im too impatient to work with spray cans, that is entirely possible to fix up really nice though, most local repair guys will bel ike "you cant do that", or "its not worth it", because they are lazy, inexperienced, etc.






                The black & clear nitro are both available from Stew Mac in spray cans.

                I experimented with them several years ago.



                With nitro, or for that matter, acrylic lacquers as well, the flash time of the thinners need to be tailored to temperature & humidity conditions for good flow out & to avoid blush in high temp/humidity conditions.

                There-in lies the major problem with trying to do high quality work with spray cans.



                Orange peel can always be leveled with wet sanding before proceeding.



                Blush occurs primarially due to excessive humidity, especially on warm/hot days, which limits the ability of the atmosphere to accept the solvent vapors of the drying solvents from the sprayed lacquer.

                This causes the sprayed paint film to "skin" over too quickly trapping un-evaporated solvents in the substrates of the paint film layer, causing the finish to turn greyish looking...not a pretty sight.



                This is an easily controllable situation with slower drying thinners/retarders.

                However, these options are simply not available to the painter when using spray can finishes.
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                • #23
                  I have never seen that blacktop configuration... I think I am in love!



                  Good luck finding a skilled person to work on it
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                  • #24






                    Quote Originally Posted by larryguitar
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                    You thinking all nitro?




                    yes, i think it would only be fitting. don't you?
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                    • #25






                      Quote Originally Posted by Burningleaves
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                      Cool idea. If a member does end up taking on the job maybe they could post up a build thread here.




                      that is definitely my goal with this. i was thinking that, with the economy what it is, someone would be taking this on. so far, meandi has offered to do the repair work. just need a capable finisher. anyone, anyone, Bueller?
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                      • #26






                        Quote Originally Posted by atrox
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                        Yeah, that is pretty much the same exact thing I said last year. However, I'm not taking any work at all till this Fall



                        Good luck man. i hope you can get this thing done finally




                        hey Atrox! i remember you offering to do the work last year. i wrote back with your input on how to proceed and didn't hear back. not a big deal, because i didn't follow up either (moved on to other things and truthfully getting a little discouraged that no one was around to do the finish work). i figure i'd try this again. can someone with finishing skills and time help?
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                        • #27
                          thank you for this information, meandi!









                          Quote Originally Posted by meandi
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                          The black & clear nitro are both available from Stew Mac in spray cans.

                          I experimented with them several years ago.



                          With nitro, or for that matter, acrylic lacquers as well, the flash time of the thinners need to be tailored to temperature & humidity conditions for good flow out & to avoid blush in high temp/humidity conditions.

                          There-in lies the major problem with trying to do high quality work with spray cans.



                          Orange peel can always be leveled with wet sanding before proceeding.



                          Blush occurs primarially due to excessive humidity, especially on warm/hot days, which limits the ability of the atmosphere to accept the solvent vapors of the drying solvents from the sprayed lacquer.

                          This causes the sprayed paint film to "skin" over too quickly trapping un-evaporated solvents in the substrates of the paint film layer, causing the finish to turn greyish looking...not a pretty sight.



                          This is an easily controllable situation with slower drying thinners/retarders.

                          However, these options are simply not available to the painter when using spray can finishes.




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                          • #28






                            Quote Originally Posted by GreatDane
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                            hey Atrox! i remember you offering to do the work last year. i wrote back with your input on how to proceed and didn't hear back. not a big deal, because i didn't follow up either (moved on to other things and truthfully getting a little discouraged that no one was around to do the finish work). i figure i'd try this again. can someone with finishing skills and time help?




                            My sincerest apologies then. I have a hard time keeping track of the PMs in this place. I didn't mean to blow you off.
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                            • #29
                              It's official!~ pending a response from meandi with shipping details, we have the repair aspect of this HC Forum Les Paul thread locked down.



                              meandi has agreed to photograph and document the progress in a new thread; work could begin as soon as June!



                              any available finishers out there? we're getting closer to having a HC Blacktop.
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                              • #30






                                Quote Originally Posted by atrox
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                                My sincerest apologies then. I have a hard time keeping track of the PMs in this place. I didn't mean to blow you off.




                                seriously, no worries. like i said; i didn't do much to follow up at the time. one of these days, i'd like to work with you on owning my first Mason tele.
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