Members Terje Posted February 16, 2005 Members Share Posted February 16, 2005 ... is that your ears are telling you it sounds right. When adding vibrato to a bent note the note will vibrate from the target pitch and down. Why are your ears telling you this sounds right? Cause this is what singers do. Most of the time at least... Us slide players? Well, we can do this on any note, whether we slide up to it or not. We can "out-vibrato" you any day of the week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1boogieman Posted February 17, 2005 Members Share Posted February 17, 2005 My vibrato goes up and down. Slide, yep. Single note....up without slide. Vocals - only when soloing, never with harmony. Do you just make up stuff to post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Terje Posted February 17, 2005 Author Members Share Posted February 17, 2005 Originally posted by 1boogieman Do you just make up stuff to post? It's more fun that way, sin't it? Seriously though, my vibrato goes from the target pitch and down. Learnt that from Bob Brozman and it sure does sound more musical. And it is what happens when you bend up to a note and then do vibrato by releasing the bend. Which seems to be one of those things that many people strive for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soc_monki Posted February 17, 2005 Members Share Posted February 17, 2005 actually, we can vibrato a single note, non-bent, and make it go down and up in pitch. you move your finger parallel to the string back and forth and it acheives the effect of a vocalist doing vibrato. not as wide as with a slide, but it is effective. also, tremelo bars work wonders for stuff like that...and can go much LOWER than a slide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Terje Posted February 17, 2005 Author Members Share Posted February 17, 2005 Originally posted by soc_monki actually, we can vibrato a single note, non-bent, and make it go down and up in pitch. you move your finger parallel to the string back and forth and it acheives the effect of a vocalist doing vibrato. not as wide as with a slide, but it is effective. And very subtle, I love that sound. also, tremelo bars work wonders for stuff like that...and can go much LOWER than a slide Very true. I still love that quote from GP though "And if you want to get aggressive dragging that slide across the fretboard can unleash more string bending power than King Kong with a FLoyd Rose". But that's going up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 335clone Posted February 17, 2005 Members Share Posted February 17, 2005 Originally posted by Terje Learnt that from Bob Brozman Bob says hi from Ben Lomond, Ca. I'm glad you finaly agree that slide vibrato that goes above the target note sounds like 'moist ass':p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Terje Posted February 17, 2005 Author Members Share Posted February 17, 2005 Originally posted by 335clone I'm glad you finaly agree that slide vibrato that goes above the target note sounds like 'moist ass':p Have I ever said otherwise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 335clone Posted February 17, 2005 Members Share Posted February 17, 2005 Originally posted by Terje Have I ever said otherwise? I seem to recall a lot of discussion on this a year or so back. I might be wrong. 'sall good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Terje Posted February 17, 2005 Author Members Share Posted February 17, 2005 Originally posted by 335clone I seem to recall a lot of discussion on this a year or so back. My opinions change regularly. But one year ago I was of the same opinon regarding vibrato as I am now. It "should" go from the target pitch and down. If it's wide it'll go down as much as one fret almost. I like it when it's wide and generous. Sometimes I manage to do it right. Takes a very relaxed hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MorePaul Posted February 19, 2005 Members Share Posted February 19, 2005 I like is more narrow...subtle yet intense at times...like Segovia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Terje Posted February 19, 2005 Author Members Share Posted February 19, 2005 Originally posted by MorePaul I like is more narrow... When I do that it just sounds nervous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MorePaul Posted February 19, 2005 Members Share Posted February 19, 2005 Originally posted by Terje When I do that it just sounds nervous. It's one of those you have to learn to relax into. It takes a VERY relaxed motion...I heard the challenges of oral surgery described that way before where as the moves get more micro...sometimes the tedency is to over-control, get stiff and make 'nervous' motions...the deal there is to relax I think there can be a tendency to think about the motion in terms of linear rate instead of thinking about it cyclically...so there is this tendency when thinking "OK, I want to go small" to impose harder borders on the excursion....what happens is that there is this "slamming on of brakes" as the limit is reached and then an accelleration getting it going in the other diection...it's over correction basically and can lead to abrupt, "nervous sounding" things (as the profile of the modulation doesn't have as smooth a curve as one would like)thinking more relaxed and just applying more subtle motive forces can really hep that out...just don't push as hard...it takes a relaxed manner (both physically and mentally) and to not think so much about speed and borders but about completing a full cycle...it's somewhat similar to refining pedal stroke in cycling (you learn to "pedal in circles") I suspect it'll have a little more challenge factor to master with a rules-based orientation as opposed to a purely kinethetic approach...but that's the beauty of personal characteristics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pcvarney Posted February 20, 2005 Members Share Posted February 20, 2005 Originally posted by 1boogieman Do you just make up stuff to post? Keep em' coming Terje, I never know when I may find myself in the same thought process. You should put these things on fortune cookie fortunes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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