Members phil-the-thrill Posted February 3, 2013 Members Share Posted February 3, 2013 Slow down. Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1001gear Posted February 3, 2013 Members Share Posted February 3, 2013 [Warning: altered subject line^^] I agree. Take ALL the steps in a PROGRESSIVE manner at a pace such that you GET each step before progressing. The simplest way as well. What's the matter with everybody??? |_o_| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JonR Posted February 3, 2013 Members Share Posted February 3, 2013 phil-the-thrill wrote: Slow down. Any thoughts? I was thinking of the exact same answer when I saw the thread title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members windmill Posted February 4, 2013 Members Share Posted February 4, 2013 my new approach is no more than 3-4 notes at time get the basics and understand what is going on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jonfinn Posted February 4, 2013 Members Share Posted February 4, 2013 phil-the-thrill wrote:Slow down. Any thoughts? Yes. Don't try to be great. Rather, practice an unreasonable amount, then increase that amount by a factor of ten.Loving what you do goes a long way. Why you shouldn't try to be great is the same reason Yoda told Luke that "For a Jedi Pilot, there is no try. There is only do.... or do NOT." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BydoEmpire Posted February 4, 2013 Members Share Posted February 4, 2013 Use Deliberate Practice, as described in the book "Talent is Overrated." Basically, don't be an autopilot. Don't think "how many hours should I practice?" and instead think "what am I going to learn?" And slow down... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members phil-the-thrill Posted February 4, 2013 Author Members Share Posted February 4, 2013 Well Yoda, I certainly want it to sound great. What should I do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jeremy_green Posted February 4, 2013 Members Share Posted February 4, 2013 Well, slow down may be one aspect of it... but it certainly isn't the "absolute fastest way to be great". It COULD be... and a lot of players would certainly benefit from this approach. But to me what is more important is being musical. Making phrases... being able to repeat your lines. Playing things intentionally, WITH INTENT - not because they are a comfortable finger pattern. LISTENING and judging every note based on musicality is critical. Going slow is LIKELY part of this process ... but to me the speed is a small factor. Focus, listening, touch and playing music ALWAYS... these to me are the real game changers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members benzem Posted February 5, 2013 Members Share Posted February 5, 2013 Go down to the crossroads... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1001gear Posted February 5, 2013 Members Share Posted February 5, 2013 First step, forget *great*. Get competent. Good news is you can do that by the numbers. While you're busy learning you need to formulate concepts about yourself and music. These can and probably should be very broad and general and serve as context and reference to your quest. Keep going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members phil-the-thrill Posted February 5, 2013 Author Members Share Posted February 5, 2013 Great replies. I was just trying to liven things up around here. The title kind of reminded me of some of the advertisements I see on the internet,,,,"learn to play in just three days....." New comers always asking about shortcuts, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members phil-the-thrill Posted February 5, 2013 Author Members Share Posted February 5, 2013 The absolute best reply that I've read on a guitar forum was from a veteran. When asked how to get better, he replied. "stop posting in the forums and pick up the guitar." Haha. Like right now. I've got my guitar in my lap, but my hands are busy typing. That reminds me, I gotta go now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members phil-the-thrill Posted February 6, 2013 Author Members Share Posted February 6, 2013 Thanks again guys. Jeremy_green, that's about a hundred dollars worth of free advice. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jasco Posted February 12, 2013 Members Share Posted February 12, 2013 Practice less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 3shiftgtr Posted February 12, 2013 Members Share Posted February 12, 2013 The fastest way to be great is to eat lots of spicy foods and pass gas when you are on stage. Then all the band members will be making the "stink face" which causes every one the audience to think you are playing amazing stuff and freaking out your bandmates. This is the quickest way to percieved greatness, cuz true greatness is merely an opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jasco Posted February 13, 2013 Members Share Posted February 13, 2013 Jasco wrote: Practice less. And by that I mean less material not less time. Most people practice ineffeciently. The three main negative factors affecting practicing are: 1. Too much material. It's tempting to try to be good at a lot of things instead of great at one. Remember "good is the enemy of great" 2. Lack of time. It takes at least 2 hours per day to make any real progress. If you're putting in more than 6 you might be reaching a point of diminishing returns, however.. 3. Difficulty level. Many people try to tackle material that is too far beyond their technique level or musicality level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members phil-the-thrill Posted February 14, 2013 Author Members Share Posted February 14, 2013 That's good stuff Bydo. I especially like the "15 minutes per day" comment. I feel everyone should pick up the guitar every day, even if they don't have two hours to spend practicing. That's why its a good idea to keep the guitar on the stand within reach. Good advice. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Virgman Posted February 15, 2013 Members Share Posted February 15, 2013 I have no fracking idea but Jasco makes sense. You don't see too many "speed metal-thrash-acoustic-texas blues-fingerpicking-bluegrass-flatpicking-Gypsy jazz-fusion-flamenco guitarists".And Jon Finn's idea about practice a lot and then do it ten times as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members phil-the-thrill Posted February 15, 2013 Author Members Share Posted February 15, 2013 That's funny stuff Virgman. But you are right, Jasco nailed it on more than 1 point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members phil-the-thrill Posted February 15, 2013 Author Members Share Posted February 15, 2013 I'm using the "mobile" version of the site. I can't figure out how to edit my posts. Anyway yes JonFinn is spot-on. Reminded me of the 10,000 hour rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Virgman Posted February 15, 2013 Members Share Posted February 15, 2013 Greatness is rare. For most of us, half-assed is plenty good enough.Let's say you want to be able to do a half-assed solo on guitar.Take a simple sequence and learn it. Move it around the fretboard. Play it ascending, descending, vertically, horizontally, hammer a note, pull a note, slide a note, vibrato a note, add a chromatic note or two. Vary your pace, bend one of the notes, accent on of the notes, etc.Wring everything you can think of out of that puny sequence. And then, as Jon Finn said, do it ten times over again.Expanding on Jasco's idea, don't learn 100 licks just a little bit, learn that puny sequence like crazy.Here's one to get you started. A little pentatonic sequence. What can you do with that? You can do a lot with it but you have think outside the box. (Someone wrote a very famous jazz standard that starts with those notes. Can you name it?)--------------------------------------------------------------------5h7----------------------5h7------------------------------------------------------------------------------------If it's chords, take a E chord and play the heck out of it. Hammer & pull off some notes, Vary your rhythm, mute strings, play inversions, etc.(This forum is half-assed. You can't post .pdf files, attachments?. It sucks. Plus they put the Lesson Loft somewhere no one will find it.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TrickyBoy Posted March 6, 2013 Members Share Posted March 6, 2013 jonfinn wrote: phil-the-thrill wrote: Slow down. Any thoughts? Yes. Don't try to be great. Rather, practice an unreasonable amount, then increase that amount by a factor of ten. Loving what you do goes a long way. Why you shouldn't try to be great is the same reason Yoda told Luke that "For a Jedi Pilot, there is no try. There is only do.... or do NOT." I think I paraphrased that once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members speechless Posted March 10, 2013 Members Share Posted March 10, 2013 oh how about "play with musicians who've more skill and experience than you do"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members StuartBahn Posted March 10, 2013 Members Share Posted March 10, 2013 speechless wrote: oh how about "play with musicians who've more skill and experience than you do"? This is a good point. It may be uncomfortable but it's good for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members phil-the-thrill Posted March 11, 2013 Author Members Share Posted March 11, 2013 Virgman, You are no doubt the funniest man on any guitar forum I have ever read. I always enjoy your posts. Thanks for being you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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