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  • The absolute fastest way to be great

    Slow down. Any thoughts?

  • #2

    [Warning: altered subject line^^]

    I agree. Take ALL the steps in a PROGRESSIVE manner at a pace such that you GET each step before progressing.

    The simplest way as well.


    What's the matter with everybody??? |_o_|

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    • #3

      phil-the-thrill wrote:
      Slow down. Any thoughts?

      I was thinking of the exact same answer when I saw the thread title.

      ...

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      • windmill
        windmill commented
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        my new approach is no more than 3-4 notes at time

        get the basics and understand what is going on

    • #4

      phil-the-thrill wrote:
      Slow down. Any thoughts?

      Yes.   Don't try to be great.  Rather, practice an unreasonable amount, then increase that amount by a factor of ten.

      Loving what you do goes a long way.

       

      Why you shouldn't try to be great is the same reason Yoda told Luke that "For a Jedi Pilot, there is no try.  There is only do....  or do NOT."

      Thinking too much produces exactly the opposite of the intended outcome.

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      • BydoEmpire
        BydoEmpire commented
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        Use Deliberate Practice, as described in the book "Talent is Overrated."  Basically, don't be an autopilot.  Don't think "how many hours should I practice?" and instead think "what am I going to learn?"

         

        And slow down...


      • TrickyBoy
        TrickyBoy commented
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        jonfinn wrote:

        phil-the-thrill wrote:
        Slow down. Any thoughts?

        Yes.   Don't try to be great.  Rather, practice an unreasonable amount, then increase that amount by a factor of ten.

        Loving what you do goes a long way.

         

        Why you shouldn't try to be great is the same reason Yoda told Luke that "For a Jedi Pilot, there is no try.  There is only do....  or do NOT."


        I think I paraphrased that once


    • #5
      Well Yoda, I certainly want it to sound great. What should I do?

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      • jeremy_green
        jeremy_green commented
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        Well, slow down may be one aspect of it... but it certainly isn't the "absolute fastest way to be great". It COULD be... and a lot of players would certainly benefit from this approach. But to me what is more important is being musical. Making phrases... being able to repeat your lines. Playing things intentionally, WITH INTENT - not because they are a comfortable finger pattern. LISTENING and judging every note based on musicality is critical. 

        Going slow is LIKELY part of this process ... but to me the speed is a small factor. Focus, listening, touch and playing music ALWAYS... these to me are the real game changers.


      • 1001gear
        1001gear commented
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        First step, forget *great*. Get competent. Good news is you can do that by the numbers. While you're busy learning you need to formulate concepts about yourself and music. These can and probably should be very broad and general and serve as context and reference to your quest. Keep going.


    • #6

      Go down to the crossroads...

      Originally Posted by GW348


      I just let the pee flow. The places I play, no one notices or have peed themselves too.




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      • #7
        Great replies. I was just trying to liven things up around here.

        The title kind of reminded me of some of the advertisements I see on the internet,,,,"learn to play in just three days....." New comers always asking about shortcuts, etc.

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        • #8
          The absolute best reply that I've read on a guitar forum was from a veteran. When asked how to get better, he replied. "stop posting in the forums and pick up the guitar." Haha.

          Like right now. I've got my guitar in my lap, but my hands are busy typing.

          That reminds me, I gotta go now.

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          • #9
            Thanks again guys.

            Jeremy_green, that's about a hundred dollars worth of free advice. Thanks

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            • #10

              Practice less.

               

               

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              • 3shiftgtr
                3shiftgtr commented
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                The fastest way to be great is to eat lots of spicy foods and pass gas when you are on stage. Then all the band members will be making the "stink face" which causes every one the audience to think you are playing amazing stuff and freaking out your bandmates.

                 

                This is the quickest way to percieved greatness, cuz true greatness is merely an opinion.


              • Jasco
                Jasco commented
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                Jasco wrote:

                Practice less.

                 

                 


                And by that I mean less material not less time.

                 

                Most people practice ineffeciently.

                 

                The three main negative factors affecting practicing are:

                 

                1. Too much material. It's tempting to try to be good at a lot of things instead of great at one. Remember "good is the enemy of great"

                 

                2. Lack of time. It takes at least 2 hours per day to make any real progress. If you're putting in more than 6 you might be reaching a point of diminishing returns, however..

                 

                3. Difficulty level.  Many people try to tackle material that is too far beyond their technique level or musicality level.

                 

                 

                 


            • #11
              That's good stuff Bydo.

              I especially like the "15 minutes per day" comment. I feel everyone should pick up the guitar every day, even if they don't have two hours to spend practicing. That's why its a good idea to keep the guitar on the stand within reach. Good advice. Thanks.

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              • Virgman
                Virgman commented
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                I have no fracking idea but Jasco makes sense.   You don't see too many "speed metal-thrash-acoustic-texas blues-fingerpicking-bluegrass-flatpicking-Gypsy jazz-fusion-flamenco guitarists".

                And Jon Finn's idea about practice a lot and then do it ten times as much.

                 


            • #12
              That's funny stuff Virgman. But you are right, Jasco nailed it on more than 1 point.

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              • #13
                I'm using the "mobile" version of the site. I can't figure out how to edit my posts.

                Anyway yes JonFinn is spot-on. Reminded me of the 10,000 hour rule.

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                • Virgman
                  Virgman commented
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                  Greatness is rare.  For most of us, half-assed is plenty good enough.

                  Let's say you want to be able to do a half-assed solo on guitar.

                  Take a simple sequence and learn it.  Move it around the fretboard.  Play it ascending, descending, vertically, horizontally,  hammer a note, pull a note, slide a note, vibrato a note, add a chromatic note or two.  Vary your pace, bend one of the notes, accent on of the notes, etc.

                  Wring everything you can think of out of that puny sequence.  And then, as Jon Finn said, do it ten times over again.

                  Expanding on Jasco's idea, don't learn 100 licks just a little bit, learn that puny sequence like crazy.

                  Here's one to get you started.  A little pentatonic sequence.  What can you do with that?  You can do a lot with it but you have think outside the box.  (Someone wrote a very famous jazz standard that starts with those notes.  Can you name it?)

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                  -----------------------------

                  ----------5h7-------------------

                  ---5h7--------------------------

                  -----------------------------

                  -----------------------------

                  If it's chords, take a E chord and play the heck out of it.  Hammer & pull off some notes, Vary your rhythm, mute strings, play inversions, etc.

                  (This forum is half-assed.  You can't post .pdf files, attachments?.  It sucks.  Plus they put the Lesson Loft somewhere no one will find it.)

                   

                   

                   

                   

                   

                   

                   


              • #14

                oh how about "play with musicians who've more skill and experience than you do"?

                tl;dr

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                • StuartBahn
                  StuartBahn commented
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                  speechless wrote:

                  oh how about "play with musicians who've more skill and experience than you do"?


                   
                  This is a good point. It may be uncomfortable but it's good for you.

              • #15
                Virgman,

                You are no doubt the funniest man on any guitar forum I have ever read.

                I always enjoy your posts.

                Thanks for being you.

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