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  • #16
    Hess really knows how to market I will give him that. But he really is a shred only kind of teacher.

    My favourite "Hess moment" is on one of his YouTube clips where he has a student with him and he asks the kids "who is your favourite guitarist? (kid) John Frusciante! (hess) chuckles arrogantly then says "no ... someone (actually) good"

    John Frusciante made more meaningful actual music in his first year than Hess has in a lifetime. Brutal response.
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    • #17
      That's because Frusciante is god.

      I once told a friend who is into metal music that I wanted to play like Frusciante and he told me "Frusciante sucks, if you like the RHCP you should try something like Dave Navarro". The conversation ended there.

      I mean, he's not bad, but there is no comparison.

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      • #18
        I always struggle when some people seem to put no emphasis on creativity. There are tons of guys (like Hess) who can shred like mad but have very little in the way of originality. Chops alone do not a player make!

        I am not saying for one second that Frusiante is a monster technique guy - hes not - but he is damn creative and I were allowed to choose I would choose creativity over chops in a heartbeat.
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        • #19
          That's because Frusciante can say more with a 3 note fill than most shredders do with a 100 note scale run/sweep picking solo.

          Frusciante has some cool things. He did a lot of blues/funk music at the beginning of his career and still does sometimes with the RHCP but his solo albums are a completely different thing. He explores so much sounds and different styles that he'd never try with his band.

          Also in some of his solos he tries NOT to put emphasys on the beats and thus sounding much more differently that we use to hear in rock most of the time.

          Sorry for the offtopic

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          • #20
            Anyway, I'm sure he's good at getting people to learn stuff, but to be honest I checked out all his students playing and it was all pretty horrible music. Like if you grated cheese all over a drum machine and then overbaked it in the oven. Personally I like guitar that sounds like a guitar, - he doesn't seem to cater for this and to be honest I think he'd find it hard to teach anything but 'chops' and economy styles by correspondence.


            Luke,

            That's the funniest thing I read or heard in days. And I mean that as in sincerely, genuinely funny. Thank you for the good, hearty laugh. I needed it, even if Hess didn't.
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              Funny to watch these old threads getting dragged back out from the dead

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              Darrell_Curtis wrote:
              Anyway, I'm sure he's good at getting people to learn stuff, but to be honest I checked out all his students playing and it was all pretty horrible music. Like if you grated cheese all over a drum machine and then overbaked it in the oven. Personally I like guitar that sounds like a guitar, - he doesn't seem to cater for this and to be honest I think he'd find it hard to teach anything but 'chops' and economy styles by correspondence.


              Luke,

              That's the funniest thing I read or heard in days. And I mean that as in sincerely, genuinely funny. Thank you for the good, hearty laugh. I needed it, even if Hess didn't.

              I just watched your lesson on your site. Nice teaching.


          • #21
            I draw the line when "good web marketting" becomes misleading.

            For example, if I get an email from someone I gave my email address to, talking about their product, I don't really mind. If you sign up with Tom Hess you will get emails often. You can unsubscribe, so it's not spam.

            What I object to is when the emails lie. For example, they say "click on this link for information about " and in fact the link always takes you to the same long web page that the last one took you to, which contains no information about the lesson at all.


            if were allowed to choose I would choose creativity over chops in a heartbeat.


            Yeah. Man I'd love some creativity lessons.

            Does anyone recall the movie "Amadeus", where Salieri present to the sponsor (king? ruler? rich dude?) a piece that he has slaved over all week.
            Mozart grabs the score and renders the hopelessly staid piece on a nearby keyboard. The improvises the hell out of it on the spot. Salieri ends up in the lunatic asylum, consumed with jealousy.

            From time to time my own little diddles bring this to mind...

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            • #22


              Does anyone recall the movie "Amadeus", where Salieri present to the sponsor (king? ruler? rich dude?) a piece that he has slaved over all week.
              Mozart grabs the score and renders the hopelessly staid piece on a nearby keyboard. The improvises the hell out of it on the spot. Salieri ends up in the lunatic asylum, consumed with jealousy.

              From time to time my own little diddles bring this to mind...

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              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ciFTP_KRy4

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              • #23
                yeah this guy is like a pyramid scheme guy or something. I gave my email for a free audio thing, which to be honest was alright, and now I get at least one email a day. His website has those really long sales pitches that go on and on and scroll down the page. It's real classic web marketing stuff.

                Anyway, I'm sure he's good at getting people to learn stuff, but to be honest I checked out all his students playing and it was all pretty horrible music. Like if you grated cheese all over a drum machine and then overbaked it in the oven. Personally I like guitar that sounds like a guitar, - he doesn't seem to cater for this and to be honest I think he'd find it hard to teach anything but 'chops' and economy styles by correspondence.

                Tom ain't running a pyramid scheme, it just looks like that way from the outside. He's actually a really good teacher, but he sells it like snake oil, which is what sets of peoples' BS detectors. I was every bit as weary about it as anyone here, but it turns out the guy has a lot of good, specific advice that you generally just don't get from books. Some of it you kinda have to filter out, though. There's one lesson where he tells you to spent some time (like 15 min.) playing everything with upstrokes in order to fully develop that technique (his reasoning being you use downstrokes much more often, so your upstrokes aren't as well defined). I skipped that--it seemed like a waste of time.

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                • #24
                  I always struggle when some people seem to put no emphasis on creativity. There are tons of guys (like Hess) who can shred like mad but have very little in the way of originality. Chops alone do not a player make!

                  I am not saying for one second that Frusiante is a monster technique guy - hes not - but he is damn creative and I were allowed to choose I would choose creativity over chops in a heartbeat.

                  Sorry, but you don't know Tom very well. He's quite creative, and a very good composer/guitarist. Perhaps you don't like it (it being neo-classical metal), but it's actually quite musical, as opposed to wankers like Rusty Cooley. Moreover, Tom has an excellent grasp of musical theory and it's clear from his videos that he is intimately familiar with the notes he uses and why he uses them.

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                  • #25
                    I am sure he is very knowledgeable and has great chops. But ripping Frusiante is bush league. For the record I am not really even a peppers fan. He has written nothing even close to the vacinity of JF in terms of musical importance or originality. Until he does comments like those do nothing to improve his credibility. If he is so great he should understand this. Does Andy Summers suck too? Or for that matter Buddy Guy? I guess George Harrison was pretty crap too cause he can't sweep pick a minor seven arp at 200bpm
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                    • #26
                      I am sure he is very knowledgeable and has great chops. But ripping Frusiante is bush league. For the record I am not really even a peppers fan. He has written nothing even close to the vacinity of JF in terms of musical importance or originality. Until he does comments like those do nothing to improve his credibility. If he is so great he should understand this. Does Andy Summers suck too? Or for that matter Buddy Guy? I guess George Harrison was pretty crap too cause he can't sweep pick a minor seven arp at 200bpm

                      I only said that Tom is creative and has an excellent grasp of music theory. I never jumped to defend him ripping RHCP, even though I laughed when I saw that segment of the video. I couldn't care less if he insults Frusciante.

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                      • #27
                        I laughed too ... but it was more in a "That's embarrassing for Hess" kind of way.

                        Actually the funnier part was when that kid couldnt play "a little lighter" Ha! I thought Hess was going to blow his lid. THAT was reeeeealy funny.
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                        • #28

                          hey i have also been lokking at a way to better my guitar and have found

                          prac

                          prac

                          the first one is a prac gen u download the second is a  website they both very good for all lvl's i believe and its free im still new to the site's but from what i see they are quite good

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